AMD are already supporting him behind the scenes, providing him with monitors to improve eyefinity and such.
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AMD has console gaming in its pocket, but can it squeeze out Nvidia on the PC?
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AMD are already supporting him behind the scenes, providing him with monitors to improve eyefinity and such.
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dunno if they'd kill NVidia, I reckon they're a lot like intel and a lot of their business comes from industry, even if forced out of the gaming market temporarily they wont go.
used to always have NVidia stuff, this build went with amd simply because they offered better value for the money I had to spend, and considering my card has actually got better since I bought it I don't think that's a bad move.
if anything comes from amd's console dominance i'd like to see their cpu's getting better, I will confess to a soft spot for amd kit in that area, there's just something about them almost like soul, if that makes sense.
used to always have NVidia stuff, this build went with amd simply because they offered better value for the money I had to spend, and considering my card has actually got better since I bought it I don't think that's a bad move.
if anything comes from amd's console dominance i'd like to see their cpu's getting better, I will confess to a soft spot for amd kit in that area, there's just something about them almost like soul, if that makes sense.
Indeed they have been supporting him since he started working on radeonpro again.
But they should hire him officially in my opinion.
I see what you're getting at, but I don't think either would want to have issues highlighted like that. Agree about the improvements though, not a clue why Amd haven't hired the radeonpro dev yet!!
The AMD report asks for lots of details about issues so they can narrow it down to any variables then try replicate, afaik AMD will get in contact with reporters if required but a 'known problems' page is likely to either bait people or give a negative look rather than look as helpful/progressive as it should. I'd imagine it's a similar scenario with nvidia.
From what I'm told the AMD driver thread and others like it are actively looked at from AMD staff, we have a known issues part they can skip to and test without being overly public about it.
All in all drivers from both parties have never been better imo, both take an active stance on problems which is what we as customers want
@gregster, cheers bud, little sod took his time, was in for 35 hours!!
Yeah its generally not good business sense to highlight your failings but I think this is one of the scenarios where its better publicity - bundle it up with the never settle program show the games they are getting into, list the upcoming titles and what level of support/readiness AMD drivers have for them even when its games they don't have stuff working yet or a developer relationship.
I'd have to agree with humbug's posts awhile back that AMD customers and potential customers want more information not less at the moment, people want to know what they can expect and have some idea of whats to come, the cloak and dagger reveals of late while good for publicity have tended to do the opposite to what customers and potential customers want right now.
Oops! You used AMD in place of nVidia 7 times.
Next generation of AMD CPUs should have the ability to prioritise and boost performance on a smaller number of threads when needed which has been one of the areas intel has been really killing them on. Doesn't look like it made its way into the CPU used for the PS4 tho where it would have been really useful.
The issue is the terminology of "porting" as "porting" doesn't really happen, that was my point.
People may see it as semantics but I think it's important that people understand that there's a difference between them, and that they shouldn't blame consoles for the downsides of games on PC, as Final8y said, consoles don't make games, people do.
Yes, some developers will focus their games towards consoles at the expense of the PC experience, no doubts there, but it's at a developer's choice, not "because consoles".
People wrongly blame consoles for so much when in the real world they have a lot to be grateful for when it comes to consoles, I don't think any gaming would be as big as it is now without consoles.
Define premium, as a lot of the time it feels like it's a word people use when they can't really explain a price difference, so just say the more expensive product is the "premium" one.
But it's said in a way to strongly suggest or imply that you are actually getting something for the additional money when you actually aren't.
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For AMD to overtake Nvidiain the PC market it needs an aggresive and sustained marketing campaign. Theor cards and drivers are fine but what Nvidia have done over the last 6 years is market its products well, TWIMTBP, 3d vision, physx (to a much lesser extent) and its excsive board partners like EVGA have all played their part in giving Nvidia market dominace.
Given how small the discrete grahics card market is it won't take a lot to swing market share, AMD could really do with a premium AIB partner, in that regard I think Corsair would be a great fit for AMD. A strong brand name, reputation for quality and customer care imo Sapphire just aren't upto it and would be more then a match for EVGA.
Given how small the discrete grahics card market is it won't take a lot to swing market share, AMD could really do with a premium AIB partner, in that regard I think Corsair would be a great fit for AMD. A strong brand name, reputation for quality and customer care imo Sapphire just aren't upto it and would be more then a match for EVGA.
Yeah that's pretty much it, I was trying to highlight that in the post you quoted.
I don't think it's necessarily the actual marketing of their products, because realistically they haven't done much with PhysX and TWIMTBP isn't really active.
I think what they actually do is push themselves in a way that makes people feel like they are missing out, regardless of if they are or not.
The biggest issue with PhysX as well is that nVidia have pretty much squandered it outside of much functional use.
Some games have nice effects, but for the most part it's barely used, though we all know that's because of its proprietary status.
Make your point without pointing the finger at other members please - Rilot
Which I've never said anything of the kind, yet I've been accused of it many times.
Sure, I wasn't criticising your post, it was just an observation on the term "premium" because I see it used to much around here to justify costs, whilst the person in question rants about how they don't need to justify it, but do anyway.
They have and It sucks.
http://forums.amd.com/game/
But i think you mean something separate and just called Radeon.
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if this, and useful offloading of stuff to the gpu like floating point happens I will be happy indeed.
Yeah I know that place.
Its tucked away in a dark corner of the internet and populated by a small 'old boys club' still active from the Athlon XP days.
Honestly they should shut the bloody thing down and start a fresh with a brand new shiny forum and link it directly to their hone page.
I really do think AMD and its users could benefit a lot from something very much like what Nvidia have.
I have actually given serious though in building a modern Radeon forum myself, I have the technical ability, just not the time, what's more something like that costs money, it can be a lot if its as much used as it should be.
