"‘Get the bacon sarnies out’ remark cost Heywood IT contractor dream job "

theleg · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:07

Glaucus said:
Read guys, the sod off was to reed, not the NHS.

Yes but surely it was Reed dropping him as a client that lost him the job?

Jokester · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:09

bigjohnsonrichard said:
Yes but surely it was Reed dropping him as a client that lost him the job?

Indeed.

C.R.A.Z.Y · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:10

Hicks said:
It's political correctness gone mad!!!!

I'm so angry right now!!

You can't even call black people ******* anymore either....

They should be forced to speak English and eat bacon as soon as they arrive in the country. Never would have happened 50 years ago....

Not sure if serious :confused:

isonomicjedi · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:10

I'm going to be having bacon for my tea.

Will this get me banned from internet?

If so I'll have pork chops instead.

Xordium · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:10

TBH if that's the way he deals with stuff he is best not working for the NHS as he'd be on constant diversity and equality training and performance reviews. Telling people to sod off is never going to help especially when they are presenting you to your future employer etc.

Though I bet Miss Offended by Bacon but Not by Alcohol would not have been so offended if she had thought she may end up with her picture in the papers out of this.

Glaucus · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:11

bigjohnsonrichard said:
Yes but surely it was Reed dropping him as a client that lost him the job?

He had already lost the job by that phone call, so it had no bearing on the job loss.

theleg · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:14

Glaucus said:
He had already lost the job by that phone call, so it had no bearing on the job loss.

I must have missed that in both articles. I can only see that the manager called him to ask further details on a reported racist comment. Where are you reading that he had already lost the job?

qqg3 · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:17

VoG said:
All of it I suspect, it was nothing that a quick "yup, sorry about that, i didn't think & meant no offence" wouldn't have solved, going off on one & telling them to sod off is not the way to land yourself a grand a week job.

I am inclined to agree, but saying "I didn't think" is pandering to a requirement that shouldn't be there. You don't need to think, you can't insult someone with bacon regardless of whether it goes against their beliefs.

Jokester · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:17

Glaucus said:
He had already lost the job by that phone call, so it had no bearing on the job loss.

It's not that clear cut though:-

“A senior manager from the Reed team spoke to Mr Hunt via telephone following an inappropriate comment made to a member of staff before he was due to start in the role. During that conversation, Mr Hunt made further inappropriate comments.

“At this point it became clear to the senior manager that Reed could no longer represent Mr Hunt. Reed is committed to supporting its staff, clients and candidates and this is not a decision we have taken lightly.”

What did it for him was the further comments on the phone. If he had been contrite at that point and make it clear it was an innocent comment taken the wrong way then this would have ended up different. But telling the agency to sod off is the worst thing you could do.

Glaucus · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:18

bigjohnsonrichard said:
I must have missed that in both articles. I can only see that the manager called him to ask further details on a reported racist comment. Where are you reading that he had already lost the job?

Ok it doesn't explicitly say it but there was two phone calls, one from NhS first and a latter one from reed. It is the reed one he said sod off in.

Randomface74 · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:18

gonna go get a bacon sarnie now

Glaucus · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:19

Jokester said:
What did it for him was the further comments on the phone. If he had been contrite at that point and make it clear it was an innocent comment taken the wrong way then this would have ended up different. But telling the agency to sod off is the worst thing you could do.

And how about the earlier phone call from her manager at the NHS? I bet that was the termination phone calla no the reed one was just the co stench checking what was going on.

Jokester · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:21

Glaucus said:
And how about the earlier phone call from her manager at the NHS? I bet that was the termination phone calla no the reed one was just the co stench checking what was going on.

I don't see anything about someone from the NHS also phoning, only the senior manager from Reed?

theleg · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:21

Glaucus said:
And how about the earlier phone call from her manager at the NHS? I bet that was the termination phone calla no the reed one was just the co stench checking what was going on.

She works for Reed, not the NHS. Her manager is the manager at Reed. Theres no mention of a call from the NHS in those articles.

robfosters · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:21

I've had that from a minister of state I worked for in the foreign office. He was meeting a delegation of Jewish folk and I had to order lunch. He told me to get loads of ham sandwiches. It was a joke, albeit a poor one, but he's supposed to be a foreign office minister.

Glaucus · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:21

Jokester said:
I don't see anything about someone from the NHS also phoning, only the senior manager from Reed?

Later, as I was driving home, Ms Sacranie’s manager called me and wanted to know about the racist remark I had made. I said I had not made one and he said I had said that I would get her a bacon sandwich. But I only made the remark because she referred to breakfast.

Jokester · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:22

Yeah, that's the Reed guy.

Glaucus · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:23

bigjohnsonrichard said:
She works for Reed, not the NHS. Her manager is the manager at Reed. Theres no mention of a call from the NHS in those articles.

No, it was an interview set up by reed, with the NHS.

Clive Hunt, 58, says he was offered the eight month contract with the NHS after attending an interview set up by recruitment firm Reed.

Since when did the recruitment firm hold the interviews and employee people, I've never had that before. They put you forward for jobs, the firm employing you still does the interviews.

PooBrain · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:23

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Of course you would as you're an uncivilized bigot who has already made his mind up about EVERY Muslim in the U.K

I have made my mind up about the Muslims who take the **** and our PC government/ society who let them get away with it.

theleg · 15 Jun 2013 at 16:23

Glaucus said:
No, it was an interview set up by reed, with the NHS.

Im sorry but you are wrong. She works for Reed. Google her name and you will see her linkedin profile. She does not work for the NHS.