I think there is a bit more than "something" makes it all the more interesting though if you leave out the facts. Will be interesting to see what Reed say about this over the next few days.
"‘Get the bacon sarnies out’ remark cost Heywood IT contractor dream job "
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I think there is a bit more than "something" makes it all the more interesting though if you leave out the facts. Will be interesting to see what Reed say about this over the next few days.
Reed have already answered. They basically said nothing.
I didnt say you said it...I thought it was clear i was referring to those who did say similar things in the thread? I apologise if you thought i meant you.
We dont know the remit of their job. Race relations is an extremely serious issue within the NHS and they may well have included some kind of condition regarding sensitivity.
I wasnt stating anything, i was putting forward a suggestion of what 'may' have been said in order to show that its a bad idea to make assumptions...
Be that as it may, assuming because she is an asian lady that she is muslim is equally bad, is it not?
Do we start living in a world where basically we don't say anything at the risk of offending someone?
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I think you miss my point. Privilege is what I was getting at
Prejudice is the MO of privilege and I can assure you, I know all about privilege.
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My input:
She's damn fine. Shame she's a muslim which = off-limits.
She's damn fine. Shame she's a muslim which = off-limits.
Because he apparently kept telling him to apologise and admit he was wrong. I wouldn't apologise either. Why should I apologise just because they took a completely innocent remark the wrong way? All that achieves is them thinking they were right to get offended, which they aren't.
But as the remark isn't remotely racist it shouldn't be a problem.
So the above comment about some kind condition regarding sensitivity isn't an assumption?
This is amazing!
Where is she an alcohol swigging *****. To me that picture looks like she was at a dinner
Assuming someone is muslim is equally as bad as what? Going mental on the phone to a manager who gets to decide if you get a 50k job?
thats for the guy himself to decide again, we dont really know if she did take offence. We dont know that she didnt report the comment as part of her job specifically relating to this NHS contract. We dont know very much.
Personally i dont believe that he would have lost the job had he been civil on the phone to the manager. He neednt have apologised, just said he didnt realise and that he will try to be more sensitive in the future. but we will never know.
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If the initial comment was not inappropriate how can there be further inappropriate comments?
And given the oversensitivity to the breakfast offer, how can we not be sure that the other comments have not also been blown out of proportion?
But as the remark isn't remotely racist it shouldn't be a problem.
So the above comment about some kind condition regarding sensitivity isn't an assumption?
No its not an assumption because its simply suggesting a 'what if' scenario. Im not stating that it is the case, im asking what if? In order to show that we dont know.
Do you seriously believe telling a recruitment agency that was looking to hire you to sod off is in any way not going to affect your chances of getting the contract?!?
Im pretty sure he already lost the contract. It wasnt like picked up the phone and instantly told them to sod off.
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Do you seriously think a recruitment agency has the right to call someone a racist because they asked to get the bacon sandwiches in on the morning?
Does the muslim have the right to be offended been in the UK and a british citizen asking about bacon sandwiches?
Does the man who said sod off to the recruitment agency have the right to tell a recruitment agency to sod off?
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At that point he was probably sure he wasn't getting it anyway.
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So just to check - is your position that you should never make allowances for peoples beliefs? Also what do you mean by "guests in our house"?
Whether you like it or not the simple fact is that not everyone will look like you or think like you - a bit of tolerance and respect for other people usually isn't a bad idea. Being rude to a potential employer is rarely the smartest move either, maybe by that point it was already too late for him to rescue the situation but we're unlikely to know that. You also seem to be presenting the idea (intentionally or otherwise) that Muslims cannot also be British people who work.