Losing belly quick

[BigPecsPeter]

Actually not good advice.

If you're already on a deficit that causes fat loss, attempting faster fat loss with a much bigger deficit will just mess you up. CV work is unnecessary and can add to the problem.

Hmmmm.

Well, surely it depends on the current size of the deficit. If it's a measly 150-200 calories or so, he could certainly increase it to 500, maybe more. I agree that CV work is unnecessary and can create additional problems, but increasing metabolic rate by being more active generally (more standing up, less sitting down, etc) can be really helpful. In my opinion, anyways.

 

[tom_e]

I gym it, swim and cycle. Sometimes two of those every day. I weigh 10.5 stone, am 6ft dead and still have a little bit of belly and man boob. The boobs tense up solid, but they're not normal looking and its a bit weird. Doesn't help that I like wearing more fitted tops.

I wouldn't say my diet is terrible but it isn't controlled, I don't think about what I ear I just avoid the obvious rubbish as much as I can. So I think the cure for this plight, and for those of a similar build, is a case of a regimented and tougher diet.

Can anyone help me/us in that respect? I'd love someone to just tell me what to eat.

10.5st at 6ft doesn't sound like you'll have a great deal of fat and trying to strip anymore off is probably going to be a long painful process that will leave you looking crap, I'd look at concentrating on getting some more lean mass.

 

[mrthingyx]

10.5st at 6ft doesn't sound like you'll have a great deal of fat and trying to strip anymore off is probably going to be a long painful process that will leave you looking crap, I'd look at concentrating on getting some more lean mass.

Either that or lots of visceral fat.

 

[Nate75]

Well... no, that's just not how it works.

it worked for me.

However I won't pretend to be any sort of expert.

 

[Kimi]

suggest long bike rides.

30 mile round trip at a steady pace.

That loses flabby area's quickly.

First, you wont loose flabby areas quickly, secondly steady pace will not result in massive calorie burn, you need to factor in some high power intervals into this, cycling sprint work or a time trail effort. Bursts of 1 min max pace, 30 sec-1min recovery depending on the terrain etc. Keep increasing your max pace time and reducing your recovery time as you become more efficient and you will burn a large amount of calories, but as always it comes down to 90% diet.

 

[Nate75]

First, you wont loose flabby areas quickly, secondly steady pace will not result in massive calorie burn, you need to factor in some high power intervals into this, cycling sprint work or a time trail effort. Bursts of 1 min max pace, 30 sec-1min recovery depending on the terrain etc. Keep increasing your max pace time and reducing your recovery time as you become more efficient and you will burn a large amount of calories, but as always it comes down to 90% diet.

True.

There were a few steep climbs involved. But mostly flat with a steady incline.

Re diet. I lived on tinned fish, a jacket with tom's and broccoli.

However I need to bow out of this thread - it's not my place to give advice on this one.

 

[icecold]

I gym it, swim and cycle. Sometimes two of those every day. I weigh 10.5 stone, am 6ft dead and still have a little bit of belly and man boob. The boobs tense up solid, but they're not normal looking and its a bit weird. Doesn't help that I like wearing more fitted tops.

I wouldn't say my diet is terrible but it isn't controlled, I don't think about what I ear I just avoid the obvious rubbish as much as I can. So I think the cure for this plight, and for those of a similar build, is a case of a regimented and tougher diet.

Can anyone help me/us in that respect? I'd love someone to just tell me what to eat.

You can do that yourself perfectly well.

Count your calories.

Hmmmm.

Well, surely it depends on the current size of the deficit. If it's a measly 150-200 calories or so, he could certainly increase it to 500, maybe more. I agree that CV work is unnecessary and can create additional problems, but increasing metabolic rate by being more active generally (more standing up, less sitting down, etc) can be really helpful. In my opinion, anyways.

As I read that back today I realised that I should have stated that it depends on the current deficit.

The main point I was trying to make was that slashing your calories very quickly (e.g. 500+ initially, 200 initially shortly followed by another 500 out of frustration), and possibly adding more metabolic stress with poorly thought out cardio, is just going to cause problems.

 

[BigPecsPeter]

You can do that yourself perfectly well.

Count your calories.

Eh, exactly. Dude's an adult, for goodness sake. Why are people often so reluctant to just take responsibility for their own problems?

The main point I was trying to make was that slashing your calories very quickly (e.g. 500+ initially, 200 initially shortly followed by another 500 out of frustration), and possibly adding more metabolic stress with poorly thought out cardio, is just going to cause problems.

True, and by that point, you've pretty much lost your mind too. Dietary hyper-neurosis. I've come across people who go have a big dinner, feel guilty, and then (at 9:30pm just before gym closes) go to the cardio room to thrash out another 1,000kcal. It's virtual gymsanity, this world we're living in.

 

[Admiral Huddy]

Plenty of combination exercises rather the isolated. Short effective burst of CV rather than long periods. My wife found brisk walking daily more effective than running because the fat composition is broken down more effectively.

 

[BigPecsPeter]

brisk walking daily more effective than running because the fat composition is broken down more effectively.

The part after "because" is probably nonsense, but it is true that going for long brisk walks (3-3¼ mph or so) is going to simply burn more calories than most runs that your average plonker goes on. It's also more pleasant and a lifestyle that's easier to stick to, imo.

 

[Begbie]

I gym it, swim and cycle. Sometimes two of those every day. I weigh 10.5 stone, am 6ft dead and still have a little bit of belly and man boob. The boobs tense up solid, but they're not normal looking and its a bit weird. Doesn't help that I like wearing more fitted tops.

I wouldn't say my diet is terrible but it isn't controlled, I don't think about what I ear I just avoid the obvious rubbish as much as I can. So I think the cure for this plight, and for those of a similar build, is a case of a regimented and tougher diet.

Can anyone help me/us in that respect? I'd love someone to just tell me what to eat.

You need to put more weight on!

I weigh 13.5 stone and consider myself skinny at 6ft and constantly told (mostly banter, and by fat ****s) that I am skinny. I do have a little fat around the stomach area but 10.5 is way too light for someone 6ft forget about looking skinny and go full alpha.

 

[mrthingyx]

go full alpha.

Love this expression.

Apparently, kids nowadays want the "Ed Cullen" look rather than the "Freefaller."

It is a sad place with mop emo hair, beanies and jeans around the knees.

To be fair, however, my quest to be 85kg is proving similarly depressing. Although, I did officially drop that this morning.

 

[Skillmister]

I was slightly under 10.5 when i started, time to eat not worry about a tiny bit of fat you might have.

 

[Tenzo]

10.5 stone at 6ft??!? That's just bones and organs!

 

[Suarez7]

You need to put more weight on!

I weigh 13.5 stone and consider myself skinny at 6ft and constantly told (mostly banter, and by fat ****s) that I am skinny. I do have a little fat around the stomach area but 10.5 is way too light for someone 6ft forget about looking skinny and go full alpha.

They must be taking the ****. At 6ft 2, 14.5 stone I'm far from skinny, I'm not aesthetic either. Around 203lbs at the moment, gonna cut to 185 soon.

 

[wildman]

Heavy compund lifts is the way to go.

Squats, Deads, Barbell Rows, Bench, Military. Bigger muscles = higher BMR = higher calroie burn thius making it easier to lose fat. Only kicker is that you can't do spot removal unless you get lippo.

 

[BigPecsPeter]

Bigger muscles = higher BMR = higher calroie burn thius making it easier to lose fat.

This is a myth. More recent research in this area suggests that every extra lb of muscle burns something like an additional 6 calories per day (rather than the legend of 50kcal). So if you put on 10kg of pure muscle, you could expect to burn a whopping 132kcal extra per day. Whoopee. Might as well just go on a half hour 1.5 mile walk instead.

Main factor in BMR/RMR is, simply, one's overall body mass (and whether that somebody is a male or a female). This is why obese people when dieting properly lose fat at such an alarming rate, whereas on the other hand your muscle bound seasoned bodybuilder Mr Lean at 75kg is complaining that he's struggling to drop a kg (there are of course other factors involved in such conundrums).

Main factor in manipulating metabolic rate is raising overall activity levels throughout the day. Of course, a major component of this could be exercise.

 

[booyaka]

10.5 stone at 6ft??!? That's just bones and organs!

This! Holy cow.

I'm 6"3 and 13.5 stone - dropped from around 16st and people comment that i've lost to much weight!

 

[mrthingyx]

This is a myth. More recent research in this area suggests that every extra lb of muscle burns something like an additional 6 calories per day (rather than the legend of 50kcal). So if you put on 10kg of pure muscle, you could expect to burn a whopping 132kcal extra per day. Whoopee. Might as well just go on a half hour 1.5 mile walk instead.

Main factor in BMR/RMR is, simply, one's overall body mass (and whether that somebody is a male or a female). This is why obese people when dieting properly lose fat at such an alarming rate, whereas on the other hand your muscle bound seasoned bodybuilder Mr Lean at 75kg is complaining that he's struggling to drop a kg (there are of course other factors involved in such conundrums).

Main factor in manipulating metabolic rate is raising overall activity levels throughout the day. Of course, a major component of this could be exercise.

I disagree with your interpretation

This is the reason to get truly massive.

 

[BigPecsPeter]

I disagree with your interpretation

This is the reason to get truly massive.

Lol, kinda true though!

In the low 70kgs (a very dark, dark period in my existence) I was eating like a girl. In the mid-80kgs now, I can eat like a pig. I'm talking a filthy, dirty, ugly, smelly HOG. And get away with it.