Tbh expensive pagid ones were crap, let him see if cheaper ones fix his problem for the grand sum of £26.
New brake discs warped???
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Tbh expensive pagid ones were crap, let him see if cheaper ones fix his problem for the grand sum of £26.
well I couldnt get to ECP yesterday to pick them up so I cancelled the order, got to work today with nothing to do really so went and for some bizzare reason I ordered some more Pagid ones.... just finished fitting them and have been out for a quick test drive, its much improved but there is still a little bit of vibration but nothing like before so time will tell, even if it lasts a few k ill be happy with the £33 they cost!
Radial run out of brake discs should not exceed 0.07mm. The hub can also cause the exact same issue, and tbh once you have re-occurring issues that aren't overtly obvious you are best to consult an specialist.
I don't think it'll even take that long
by the time I got home it was almost as bad as before, cars eh!You had any more luck Brad? I've ordered some Bosch disc's and pads. Sod Pagid. Apparently ECP have bought exclusive rights to use the "Pagid" name which they are sticking on cheaper stuff. I think i may have had shoddy quality discs and pads.
Mechanic checked all bushes, wheel bearings and if the wheels were free to turn and all was ok. Went out for a drive with him and he noted that the hotter the discs got, the more the wheel vibrated so it's probably crap discs that have been manufactured poorly as it appeared quickly after I fitted them. Hope it's true. Also should be able to hopefully get my money back from ECP for my old Pagid stuff which will offset the cost (and put me £30 up!) if they can sort out a refund.
Check out "www.mister-auto.co.uk" they do a far better range of braking parts (ATE/Delphi/Textar/Bosch) than ECP and for much much less.
Hopefully should have new front discs and pads fitted by tomorrow so i'll update then.
Mechanic checked all bushes, wheel bearings and if the wheels were free to turn and all was ok. Went out for a drive with him and he noted that the hotter the discs got, the more the wheel vibrated so it's probably crap discs that have been manufactured poorly as it appeared quickly after I fitted them. Hope it's true. Also should be able to hopefully get my money back from ECP for my old Pagid stuff which will offset the cost (and put me £30 up!) if they can sort out a refund.
Check out "www.mister-auto.co.uk" they do a far better range of braking parts (ATE/Delphi/Textar/Bosch) than ECP and for much much less.
Hopefully should have new front discs and pads fitted by tomorrow so i'll update then.
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Please post some proof of the above.
Because the below is my understanding.
ECP have UK distribution rights for Pagid parts, ECP don't manufacture or source 3rd party components and brand them Pagid.
ECP don't own the Pagid name, why would Pagid allow them to devalue the brand by selling inferior products?
Pagid is owned by TMD friction, and no ECP don't own them either.
As Firestarter states..
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"TMD Friction is among the world's leading manufacturers of brake friction materials for the automotive and brake industries.
Its product portfolio comprises disc brake pads and drum brake linings for passenger cars and commercial vehicles together with brake pads for racing cars and friction materials for rail and industrial applications.
TMD Friction is one of the largest suppliers to the global replacement parts aftermarket with its Textar, Pagid, Mintex, Don and Cobreq brands.
Brake pads for rail and industrial applications are developed and produced under the brand names Cosid and Dynotherm.
TMD Friction has operations in Germany, the United Kingdom, and three other European countries, as well as in the US, Brazil, Mexico, China, Japan and South Africa.
The TMD Friction Group employs approximately 4,800 people worldwide. For further information please visit www.tmdfriction.com"
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"TMD Friction is among the world's leading manufacturers of brake friction materials for the automotive and brake industries.
Its product portfolio comprises disc brake pads and drum brake linings for passenger cars and commercial vehicles together with brake pads for racing cars and friction materials for rail and industrial applications.
TMD Friction is one of the largest suppliers to the global replacement parts aftermarket with its Textar, Pagid, Mintex, Don and Cobreq brands.
Brake pads for rail and industrial applications are developed and produced under the brand names Cosid and Dynotherm.
TMD Friction has operations in Germany, the United Kingdom, and three other European countries, as well as in the US, Brazil, Mexico, China, Japan and South Africa.
The TMD Friction Group employs approximately 4,800 people worldwide. For further information please visit www.tmdfriction.com"
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There's probably nothing wrong with the discs, it's more likely a misdiagnosed fault elsewhere or the fitment of the brake discs was poor
Im away on holiday at the mo so haven't done anything else about it would be interested in seeing if it works out
Any better then?
Sorry for late reply.
Yep, fixed. Got Bosch discs and pads (which are fantastic by the way) from Mister-auto.co.uk for cheaper than anything ECP sold. ATE discs and pads were the same price on mister-auto as Pagid stuff from ECP was. However i did get £160 back from ECP for my old crap Pagid discs and pads. The mechanic used a micrometre to measure and the disc was only out by around ~0.02mm - apparently that is enough to give me the judder. However, i suspect that when the discs got hot, they became even less flat so that 0.02mm probably became a lot more giving bad judder.
Yep, fixed. Got Bosch discs and pads (which are fantastic by the way) from Mister-auto.co.uk for cheaper than anything ECP sold. ATE discs and pads were the same price on mister-auto as Pagid stuff from ECP was. However i did get £160 back from ECP for my old crap Pagid discs and pads. The mechanic used a micrometre to measure and the disc was only out by around ~0.02mm - apparently that is enough to give me the judder. However, i suspect that when the discs got hot, they became even less flat so that 0.02mm probably became a lot more giving bad judder.
I'd wish i had known about Mister auto before. I wanted ATE stuff but couldn't find anywhere which sold them for my car. All the places like brakes international, ECP, brake parts, buypartsby etc sold the same rubbish for extortionate amounts.
Also the Pagid pads for my car didn't come with clips on the back of both pads, they just came with the single clip that pops into the piston. Now, probably not a major deal and didn't think anything of it at the time because i thought Pagid and ECP were the only place i could get reasonably priced brakes, but it shows they've strayed away from OEM. Textar pads, ATE pads and Bosch pads all look absolutely identical to BMW pads.