AMD Talks Graphic Industry’s Trends – Radeon HD 7970 Still The King of $299 Price Segment

[spoffle]

And single gpu cards can also have problems with driver related performance, crashes, glitches etc same as multi gpu. The only real inherent multi gpu specific bug that comes to mind is micro stutter and that seems to be going the way of the dodo for amd come the end of July. I've ran 3 gpu's for well over a year and can count on one hand the amount of issues I've had, an issue with rage that affected most amd cards and 1 with battlefield 3 performance. Ever since the introduction of caps any real issues usually get sorted in a decent time frame. From what i've seen people really do a good job of going totally over the top blabbing on about multi gpu being ropey, oddly enough in practice for me at least its been fine.

A trend I'm noticing is that the people who are loudest about the failings of multi-GPU set ups are those who don't use them or haven't used them.

It's like the latency issue, the people being the loudest about it were people who didn't even have AMD cards, and they were so busy telling everyone who did have AMD cards, that their cards aren't smooth.

That isn't to say no one has had the issues, but rather how readily some people insist people are having issues when they're not.

I haven't had any of these latency issues in the massively widespread way people were making out, and I've had 2x 7950s for about 7 months now.

The main issue I did have was due to the spazzy boost BIOSes on my cards, which are easily sorted by flashing a different BIOS or just overclocking the card beyond the boost speeds.

 

[Rezident]

Wow i was going to hang on for the next cards but for all those free games now i'm thinking of getting a new card anyway! Hmm

 

[Final8y]

And single gpu cards can also have problems with driver related performance, crashes, glitches etc same as multi gpu. The only real inherent multi gpu specific bug that comes to mind is micro stutter and that seems to be going the way of the dodo for amd come the end of July. I've ran 3 gpu's for well over a year and can count on one hand the amount of issues I've had, an issue with rage that affected most amd cards and 1 with battlefield 3 performance. Ever since the introduction of caps any real issues usually get sorted in a decent time frame. From what i've seen people really do a good job of going totally over the top blabbing on about multi gpu being ropey, oddly enough in practice for me at least its been fine.

A trend I'm noticing is that the people who are loudest about the failings of multi-GPU set ups are those who don't use them or haven't used them.

It's like the latency issue, the people being the loudest about it were people who didn't even have AMD cards, and they were so busy telling everyone who did have AMD cards, that their cards aren't smooth.

That isn't to say no one has had the issues, but rather how readily some people insist people are having issues when they're not.

I haven't had any of these latency issues in the massively widespread way people were making out, and I've had 2x 7950s for about 7 months now.

The main issue I did have was due to the spazzy boost BIOSes on my cards, which are easily sorted by flashing a different BIOS or just overclocking the card beyond the boost speeds.

+1
This guy is happy with his Dual GPU card and he gets jumped on by people who don't have it and only go by reviews with no first hand experience.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2322929&highlight=quadfire

 

[Kaapstad]

A trend I'm noticing is that the people who are loudest about the failings of multi-GPU set ups are those who don't use them or haven't used them.

It's like the latency issue, the people being the loudest about it were people who didn't even have AMD cards, and they were so busy telling everyone who did have AMD cards, that their cards aren't smooth.

That isn't to say no one has had the issues, but rather how readily some people insist people are having issues when they're not.

I haven't had any of these latency issues in the massively widespread way people were making out, and I've had 2x 7950s for about 7 months now.

The main issue I did have was due to the spazzy boost BIOSes on my cards, which are easily sorted by flashing a different BIOS or just overclocking the card beyond the boost speeds.

+1

I have been using 4 way setups for years (both AMD and NVidia) and I have noticed something a lot of people would either disagree with or think odd.

Even if a single GPU is more than fast enough to give good fps, I find a 4 way setup more often than not runs a lot smoother with less glitches. This seems to be the case regardless of whether I am using HD 5970s in quadfire or 4 way Titans or any of my other 4 way way setups.

People will go on about drivers or 4 GPUs don't scale or microstutter, but I find 4 GPUs visually look better than 1 or 2 GPUs (I am not talking about the extra FPS) and it seems to be the case with both my AMD and NVidia setups.

I was using my ancient HD 5970s the other day and was reminded how well they worked compared to some more modern single card solutions.

 

[flopper]

A trend I'm noticing is that the people who are loudest about the failings of multi-GPU set ups are those who don't use them or haven't used them.

It's like the latency issue, the people being the loudest about it were people who didn't even have AMD cards, and they were so busy telling everyone who did have AMD cards, that their cards aren't smooth.

That isn't to say no one has had the issues, but rather how readily some people insist people are having issues when they're not.

I haven't had any of these latency issues in the massively widespread way people were making out, and I've had 2x 7950s for about 7 months now.

The main issue I did have was due to the spazzy boost BIOSes on my cards, which are easily sorted by flashing a different BIOS or just overclocking the card beyond the boost speeds.

Opinions and beliefs forms reality, and then it has to be true.

windows 8 is pretty much a perfect OS for me and people complain about it?
Since PC is made from so many sources, there are bound to be issues, user error, bioses etc...

 

[LtMatt]

Opinions and beliefs forms reality, and then it has to be true.

windows 8 is pretty much a perfect OS for me and people complain about it?
Since PC is made from so many sources, there are bound to be issues, user error, bioses etc...

Try out the Windows 8.1 drivers from AMD then.

 

[andybird123]

+1
This guy is happy with his Dual GPU card and he gets jumped on by people who don't have it and only go by reviews with no first hand experience.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2322929&highlight=quadfire

I don't see how that is relevant to this thread, gerard isn't being jumped on - he crtiicised the Titan as being a pointless niche card but then gave equally niche examples of how a 7990 is a "much better" card than a Titan

generally speaking, they are equally pointless, they each have a few niche cases where they would be the best choice for an indivdual case, however you can't really criticise one for being niche and then laud the other for being equally niche

 

[flopper]

Try out the Windows 8.1 drivers from AMD then.

waiting for official release of the 8.1 before I make any changes.
beta/preview isnt for me.
so no need for new driver.

 

[DarkTheSupreme]

As a former 7970 user, i'm not sure what AMD is trying to do...Seems like they are making a bit of a joke out of themselves with all this marketing and that "Fixer" video.

Performance talks, shouldn't have to resort to smashing the competitors card in a video.

 

[MoodyB]

As a former 7970 user, i'm not sure what AMD is trying to do...Seems like they are making a bit of a joke out of themselves with all this marketing and that "Fixer" video.

Performance talks, shouldn't have to resort to smashing the competitors card in a video.

The problem AMD have is that they had a reputation for constant driver issues, more so that NVidia, in single & multi gpu configs for many years before the 7xxx series cards and the 12.xx & 13.xx drivers.

That kind of reputation doesn't disappear overnight sadly, regardless of how well their cards perform & how much value they represent.

Plus some people will always think more £££'s = better.

You only need to look at Apple to see how that one works.

 

[Final8y]

I don't see how that is relevant to this thread.

It's relevant to the comment I was replying to and it's as simple as that

 

[Jono8]

Plus some people will always think more £££'s = better.

But AMD dont even have that advantage now (cheaper pricing). The 770 matches the 7970GHZ ed for the same price and the 760 matches the 7950 for the same price. Then Nvidia also have the 780 and Titan at higher price points but with even more performance.

I guess that is why AMD are all talk at the moment.

 

[Boomstick777]

*Double post*

 

[Boomstick777]

Nvidia also have the 780 and Titan at higher price points but with even more performance.

Exactly, their is a gap their that needs to be filled. Frankly a lot of the posts here are nonsense. You just can't compare a GTX 780 £550 to the HD 7990 £800. I really don't get why it would even be an issue to be discussed. AMD do need new cards to compete in that 780 -- Titan space. The 7990 doesn't fill that void.. They are coming but how many will have given up waiting and just gone with a GTX 780 in the meantime.. AMD need to execute..