Channel 4 to broadcast the Islamic call to prayer every morning during the holy month of Ramadan

Freakbro said:
Not sure what the surprise is? There have been Islamic bank accounts for a long time. Had quite a long discussion about them before here in GD and their basis of a lack of usury.

Of course they make their 'profit' and charges in a different way, but it's the fundamental difference in realtionship that is supposed to be between the lender and borrower that make them interesting.
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Yeah "Islamic banking" has been around for what 9 years?
http://www.moveyourmoney.org.uk/blog/islamic-banking
 
Elrein said:
Islam, promoting terrorism 5 times a day

1 min 3 minutes or a 100 mins this brainwashing crap doesn't belong on any normal western society's tv programming schedule.
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Lol wut ?

When so many westerners are followers or atleast interested in Islam then why doesn't it belong in tv ? And why is it anymore 'brainwashing' than Christian programming ?
 
Anything regarding religion always opens a can of worms, Channel 4 are they still going the ratings must be down again, hence the can opener.
 
sports_brah said:
Point 1: Actually with the child abuse, then it always made explicitly clear that it is Catholic.

Point 2: Why do people always try and defend Islam by talking about Christianity. Defend your own sodding religion without having to try and compare to others.

Point 3: Yes he was a paedophile in accordance with our understanding of what the term means. Again, don't compare to something else, just face the facts head on and argue for or against it. Also, differing cultural values of a time are here and there, but having a messenger of God deciding to **** young girls sort of puts a dampener on things.
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wtf?
because the media is not brainwashing you all by mentioning religion when the criminals are not muslims.
how was he a paedophile? he married old ladies (whom most were divorced and no one else would take them), he married one young girl whom we are not even sure when the marriage was consumated some say when she was 12 which puts him in line with most of current countries like Japan!

for people in US we are all committing paedophilia because age of consent is 16! in japan it is 12.. why are you hung up about the past when the tradition/culture played a part and do something about it now? just because it is "legal" in terms of law..

pathetic and hypocricy
 
Frightful Boar said:
I've been trying to get an answer to that myself. By our standards, yes they are, but by Californian standards, Brits are.
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that is the point surely? we all have our pov, we dont know what happened in the past, we dont know exact details so to call someone something without knowing full facts that is stupid
 
I am in support of this but only if Channel 4 do shows that will educate the wider public what Islam is so the general population learns about them rather than grabbing snippet from FB / Tabliods and other headline inducing notes about Islam - which leads to myths and misinformation and thus, leading to bigots and racist.

Look at Singapore (I grew up there) and with about 13% of the 5million pop being Malays/Islamic, there is a good understanding of different religion among differ races, creed and religion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Singapore

There are national channels which shows green labels or promps to allow muslims to change channel to Islamic channel or get ready for prayer. Anyone else watching it don't suddenly turn Islamic (or like some posters here suggest, brainwash and turn into terrorist) If that were true, we'll have bombings everyday in Singapore.

But no. Mutual understanding and tolerance of different culture and ethics made everyone live their daily life without such reaction. Educate and let everyone understand, not tuck it away and let snippets of misinformation spread like wild fire and allow people who want to blame pick it up and start groups like the EDL.
 
Elrein said:
Islam, promoting terrorism 5 times a day

1 min 3 minutes or a 100 mins this brainwashing crap doesn't belong on any normal western society's tv programming schedule.
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lol wut too ! Brainwashing ? It's a call to prayer and prayer as we all know is a submission voluntary act. You can choose to ignore it like most people do including some muslims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer
 
dirtychinchilla said:
Oh, I heard on the radio that it was all the calls. Maybe they changed it after people were outraged. On LBC they listed all of the five programmes that it would interrupt.
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Yes, on the first day, the 20-second promos will interrupt the five programs. They're not doing that throughout Ramadan.
 
Freakbro said:
Of course they make their 'profit' and charges in a different way, but it's the fundamental difference in realtionship that is supposed to be between the lender and borrower that make them interesting.
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How do they make their money? Is it simply that they don't allow overdrafts and don't pay credit interest? Or is there a more complex approach?
 
muon said:
Channel 4 trolling all the bigots.

What are Channel 4 showing that early in the morning anyway? I doubt it's displacing anything.
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^this.

It's a gimmick designed to promote debate. Nothing more. I think it's safe to say it's already done what they were hoping it would do. Provoke and inspire debate. Job done. ;)
 
Mr Jack said:
How do they make their money? Is it simply that they don't allow overdrafts and don't pay credit interest? Or is there a more complex approach?
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Here is the thread where I discussed it in more detail - see post #8 & #26

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18375212&highlight=usury+username_freakbro

As posters like Dolph were quite pejoratively vocal about (unfairly imo), they are still getting a return on investment, just that it is a different mechanism than 'interest'

But that is by the by, the more fundamental principle I was interested in with ethical banking is the premise of shared risk of the investment, where both the lender and borrower have an invested interest in the repayment of the loan.

This could help promote responsible lending, something our own system severely lacks.
 
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Freakbro said:
Here is the thread where I discussed it in more detail - from post #8

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18375212&highlight=usury+username_freakbro

As posters like Dolph were quite pejoratively vocal about (unfairly imo), they are still getting a return on investment, just that it is a different mechanism than 'interest'

But that is by the by, the more fundamental principle I was interested in with ethical banking is the premise of shared risk of the investment, where both the lender and borrower have an invested interest in the repayment of the loan.

This should help promote responsible lending, something our own system severely lacks.
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Here is another thread on Islamic accounts

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17617977
 
ilcp said:
yes but the media is not anti-christian and these people are brainwashed into thinking just one religion is bad and you dont see christianity being mentioned in every article where the criminal is not muslim..



yeah how about people who take over the world for their own benefits under false pretences? should we also get rid of christianity then seeing as all the scandals of child abuses?

it is the thinking that needs to change (including yours!)



1. so this justifies your preists abusing children?
2. what kind of an answer is this?
3. Just recently we have had a topic about why the age of consent differs, do you know in Japan it is 12 years old? so are they all paedophile there?
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Hahaha oh my goodness!

I don't know where to begin... :D

Congratulations on some scrub King tier strawmen. Have you actually read what i've posted? I'm opposed to anything which causes harm to children.

Thanks for the chuckles though! 9/11 would not read again.
 
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