Advice Needed Gaming PC with Monitor

Techz said:
Thanks for all your replies i have looked on Dell at the Alienware and im sure it would be cheaper option for me to build it myself :-/
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Also focus on the value added services provided by them as gamer pc requires lot of security updates. Anti virus provided by them and many other such requirements .
 
Hi all

Would it be better for me to get this

ASUS GTX 680 DirectCU11 Graphics card £281.78

to go in my gaming system?
 
Does a "themed build" rock your boat?

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Looks good Ethermaster

But i would l really like an i7 so it will take some time before i upgrade it again :-/

Also seems to be a lot of fans on that want it as quiet as possible as it will be on most of the time in my front room.

Just cant seem to make me mind up lol
 
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The fan's are just there to replace the ones that come with the case and the H100, if you could still use the monitor you have then the i7 is in budget.
 
RE: 16gb of RAM

Unless I've missed it, one thing that hasn't been mentioned in regards to getting 16gb is the current price of memory. RAM is expensive at the moment (my eyes almost popped out of my head when saw that Samsung Green RAM has almost doubled in price in the last year or so). My advice would be to get 8gb, which is the so called "sweet spot" for gaming builds at the moment, and leave room for future expansion.

As Hyburnate said, do you need an OS?

As for the i7, if the build is going to be primarily used for gaming then an i5 would just as good... in certain games the i7 will perform better but not by anything close to a significant margin. I'm speaking for experience when I say that you should give serious thought as to whether and i7 is worth the money, whether you'll really need the features unique to the i7, whether the money can be better spent elsewhere and finally, whether (wow, I'm really using that word a lot... it must be the weather) you're falling into the "moar powar, bigger numbers" trap. I almost did until I realised that an i7 just would not benefit me enough to justify the expense.

My final piece of advise is get a quality PSU. Don't get more power than you'll need, so take into account whether you'll be adding a second graphics card or watercooling to the rig in the future. We can spec you a better PSU if we know what your requirements are. One other small thing to think about when getting a PSU if you choose to select one yourself is the new Intel 4-series processors use a low power state called C7. A small number of PSU's aren't compatible with C7. It's not really a big deal but it'd be silly to not go with a C7 compatible PSU.
 
Buying an i7 now will make little difference to how long your rig can play decent games. Save the money or spend it elsewhere - get an i5 for gaming.

If you're looking for good gaming performance then why do you 'often have many games open'? I'd have said good performance in one game is contrary to opening loads of games. 16GB of RAM is, to me, overkill, I'd far rather 8GB of faster RAM but each to their own I guess.

Everyone else has said it so I will too: Don't forget the OS!

Also ignore the random person trying to sell you an Alienware system, he is both random (only posts are in this thread??!?) and wrong (You'll be far better speccing a machine here than getting an Alienware in performance for your money, balancing the components in any way well etc. Also gaming PCs don't have different security needs than other PCs and even if they did you'd be better sorting that out yourself than getting pre-installed garbage - if I got given an Alienware computer for free my first act would be to format it, or more likely sell it :p)
 
Hi All

Will this ram be better for me at a good price?

Crucial BLT4G3D1869DT2TXOBCEU 4GB Ballistix Smart Tracer Memory

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Doctor McNinja said:
(my eyes almost popped out of my head when saw that Samsung Green RAM has almost doubled in price in the last year or so). My advice would be to get 8gb, which is the so called "sweet spot" for gaming builds at the moment, and leave room for future expansion.
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it's more than doubled :p (was 65.99 for 16GB at one point a few months back, now £90 for 8GB :'( kicking myself....)

it made perfect sense 6 months ago to recommend 16GB, as it was stupidly cheap!
Now I'd say it probably can't get much higher (cue Gibbo jumping in and warning us that in 2 weeks time the 'value' stuff will be £70/GB :p ) so I'd definitely get 8GB for now, and add more later on (if it ever gets cheap again...something to do with the phone/tablet market buying all the ICs up!)

I run 8GB, and games never really use more than about 3GB (for the game, total in game usage I see up to 5.5 usually, and that's with music, firefox (10-15 tabs!!) videos and all sorts running), surely you can get used to saving/closing one game before you launch the next ;)

the only reason I could think of for needing more than that would be SQL, or exchange email server, both of which will gobble up as much RAM as you let them use (seen exchange within 2% of 48GB!), and absolutely no reason you'd run them on a gaming PC :)
 
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