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Piledriver 8350/ROG 890fx

Another thing to consider is that people have made similar "upgrades" on here recently and have ended up really dissapointed with Piledriver's performance.
 
satanicguardian said:
Hmm, I have heard excellent things about the 8350, 16 5 star reviews on ocuk all saying how good it is, im confused :(
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So called "reviews" on shop websites are worthless. Negative reviews are not published either. Look at proper reviews from sites such as HardOCP, BitTech, Techpowerup and Anandtech.

Look at what people on here (GoogalyMoogaly for one) are saying abouth them after actually having made the move. Never buy something based on "reviews" left on a retailers website.
 
SC2 is another Blizzard game where Vishera is far better than a Phenom II X4 or X6:

http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/strategy/StarCraft II Heart of the Swarm/test/sc2 proz.png

http://www.behardware.com/medias/photos_news/00/39/IMG0039502.png

The first link is for Heart of the Storm(typo in chart).

cheesyboy said:
WoW likes Piledriver more than Phenom;
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-15.html

And it is incorrect to say Phenom is better core for core, it isn't - it is, however, better clock for clock. Piledriver comes at a higher stock frequency and TENDS to overclock to a higher frequency than Thuban, though.
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The Phenom II X6 1100T will be at 3.7GHZ in those tests and the FX8350 at 4.2GHZ,so in those tests the performance jump is beyond the frequency difference.
 
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satanicguardian said:
I'm surprised to hear this, every review I've read on 8350 has been 5/5 and absolutely stunning, some people have said that it tears phenoms apart and even competes with some high end intels in some respects :o
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He is not putting it in the right perspektive. The 8350 and 8320 is both good CPUs with solid performance. But upgrading from a 6 true core 1xxxt will not yield an impressive difference, hence the dissappointment. We are several who have said this over and over. Doing the research before buying is always a good idea.
 
Phixsator said:
He is not putting it in the right perspektive. The 8350 and 8320 is both good CPUs with solid performance. But upgrading from a 6 true core 1xxxt will not yield an impressive difference, hence the dissappointment. We are several who have said this over and over. Doing the research before buying is always a good idea.
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How was I not putting it in the right context? I was comparing it to the 1055T.
I don't think they're bad processors, just disappointing considering they're 2 generations newer than the Phenom II with a whole new architecture and manage to perform worse in some things. I'd be surprised if Sandybridge outperformed Haswell at very much.
It just depends what you compare the FX-8320/8350 to. Compared to the 6 core Phenom II chips they're a sort of sidegrade. Compared to the Intel chips they're probably a downgrade unless you're using something that's more worried about thread count than core performance.
I do prefer it over my Q6600 though, as nice as that chip was in it's day.

EDIT: I did do some research, but I think due to it being on sale at the time I jumped in when I probably should've held on.
Perhaps I'd be happier if I had more luck overclocking the chip, but On Auto volts it isn't stable over 4.2GHz and using an offset makes it lock-up the PC. I'm not interested in using Manual voltage.
 
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GoogalyMoogaly said:
Perhaps I'd be happier if I had more luck overclocking the chip, but On Auto volts it isn't stable over 4.2GHz and using an offset makes it lock-up the PC. I'm not interested in using Manual voltage.
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Perhaps it is the motherboard then or your LLC settings, I can successfully run +0.062V offset (1.392V under load) at 4.6GHz. Crosshair 990fx but also previously on M5A99X.

I was probably one of the first, if not the first to buy an 8350 from OCUK (23.10.12). I did not do a lot of research for this reason, there were a few reviews but no serious overclocking reviews at the time.

I did notice an improvement over my 3.8GHz 1090T. This was not massively overclocked and the jump in frequency certainly helped. I thought and still think that it is a better CPU than the phenom II although that is personal opinion and others may differ. A lot of the numbers are subjective and it is user experience in the end that counts.
 
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nkata said:
Perhaps it is the motherboard then or your LLC settings, I can successfully run +0.062V offset (1.392V under load) at 4.6GHz. Crosshair 990fx but also previously on M5A99X.

I was probably one of the first, if not the first to buy an 8350 from OCUK (23.10.12). I did not do a lot of research for this reason, there were a few reviews but no serious overclocking reviews at the time.

I did notice an improvement over my 3.8GHz 1090T. This was not massively overclocked and the jump in frequency certainly helped. I thought and still think that it is a better CPU than the phenom II although that is personal opinion and others may differ. A lot of the numbers are subjective and it is user experience in the end that counts.
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I've got the M5A99X. Worked lovely for OCing my Phenom II.

It's not a bad chip (in general, mine might suck) but I don't notice a big improvement. Just my opinion though.
 
If your phenom II x6 is at 4.5Ghz then you only reasonable upgrade path is Intel to be brutally honest (And at some cost).

(As a side note, if you play Planetside 2, then the only decent option is Intel unfortunately.)
 
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