Firefly - Still worthy of a watch?

Paul_cz · 4 Aug 2013 at 22:10

GOD DAMMIT I LOVE THIS SHOW

So I forced my younger sister to watch this despite her protestations, myself I watched it now for fourth time. Needless to say, she is a hardcore browncoat now, like myself

And we are both just depressed that Wash and Book are gone, and the show itself is gone too. Dammit.

RIZZEE · 4 Aug 2013 at 22:46

I went to SDCC this year, and there was a showing of Serenity at Petco Park with NerdHQ. Alan Tudyk and Nathan Fillion came and commentated on the first 10/20 minutes on the film. Was epic

Serenity in Petco Park! by Rizwane, on Flickr

Shamikebab · 4 Aug 2013 at 23:17

Jealous!

I watched all the NerdHQ stuff, was great to see Nathan and Alan hosting this year as well, their panels were excellent

=XDC=FluphyBunny · 5 Aug 2013 at 10:37

Best scifi to only get one season by a long shot.

When you see some of the drivel that gets renewed it makes it all the more annoying.

DampCat · 5 Aug 2013 at 21:44

danoliver1 said:
We never did find out Shepherds past.

SPOILERS. THIS SPOILER CONTAINS THE INFORMATION ON SHEPHERD BOOK'S PAST. CLICK IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, DO NOT CLICK WITHOUT EADING THESE CAPITAL LETTERS.

He was a very successful spy for the independants. He was so good when he infiltrated the Alliance Military that he was promoted to an extremely high rank. Sadly in an effort to secure his identity he was forced into sending thousands of alliance soldiers to their deaths and he disguised it as an error on his part. He was resigned from the Alliance Military in disgrace having commanded the greatest military bungle of modern times. He was celebrated by the independants, of course, but it weighed heavily on his concience. Then he went off to rediscover himself.

Paraphrased and i seem to have lost my copy to double check but i think that's the jist of it.

You should definitely get the Graphic novels. They're short, and great.

Kishywish · 5 Aug 2013 at 22:54

=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
Best scifi to only get one season by a long shot.

Amen.

DisrupTor75 · 5 Aug 2013 at 23:24

Not seen the series yet but I got the movie of the show Serenity but put it on too late and fell asleep 15 mins into it

must try that again, heard a lot of good things about this show.

ps3ud0 · 5 Aug 2013 at 23:27

DisrupTor75 said:
Not seen the series yet but I got the movie of the show Serenity but put it on too late and fell asleep 15 mins into it

must try that again, heard a lot of good things about this show.

Seriously watch the series before the film!

ps3ud0 :cool:

Potty27 · 8 Aug 2013 at 23:49

Epic series.

Steampunk · 8 Aug 2013 at 23:58

Oh yes! The wife and I watch the series once a year. It's terrible that Fox basically sabotaged it because the dumb suits at the top changed their minds. It should have had at least five years and was full of potential, great characters and dialogue.

Shame they couldn't trust the guy who went on to literally make a billion with Avengers.

Mr Blonde · 19 Sep 2013 at 23:22

I watched the series and Serenity recently with the other half and I'm sorry to report that neither of us found it a pleasurable experience.

I watched both about eight years a go and seem to recall thinking they were sort of 'ok', so I told the missus that the series was a classic and off we went.

We both found the scripts dull to say the least, the characters characterless and flat and the interplay between them utterly bland. It felt like I was watching something from the 70s. The first six episodes were possibly meant to set the scene but didn't for either of us and felt more like a load of padding. I had a real job telling my missus to stick through it and ended up apologising at the end

What did I miss!?

Meridian · 20 Sep 2013 at 07:01

Mr Blonde said:
What did I miss!?

The lynching that the fanatics are about to give you? Personally, I think that you exaggerate a bit, but generally have it right. It suffered from the same problem that pretty much all TV (and film) SF suffers from: the total lack of involvement of anyone who understands SF. Like, say, a proper SF writer. They would have told Whedon that (for example) "Wild West in Space" is not an original concept, but a tired old cliché that was discredited right back in the 1950s. And that if you must play that game, keep it subtle. I suspect that the character interaction would have got better, but when you consider it's what made Whedon famous, is was poor. It just never seemed natural. Slow direction didn't help either. It was by no means bad, just not the all-conquering greatest series in the universe that some seem to think.

Mr Blonde · 20 Sep 2013 at 11:49

Meridian said:
The lynching that the fanatics are about to give you? Personally, I think that you exaggerate a bit, but generally have it right. It suffered from the same problem that pretty much all TV (and film) SF suffers from: the total lack of involvement of anyone who understands SF. Like, say, a proper SF writer. They would have told Whedon that (for example) "Wild West in Space" is not an original concept, but a tired old cliché that was discredited right back in the 1950s. And that if you must play that game, keep it subtle. I suspect that the character interaction would have got better, but when you consider it's what made Whedon famous, is was poor. It just never seemed natural. Slow direction didn't help either. It was by no means bad, just not the all-conquering greatest series in the universe that some seem to think.

Well if anyone would like to educate me as to the subtleties that we both missed (the second time round for me) then I'm all ears. Fan-boys need not apply mind...

I so wanted to enjoy it, I really did. I treat everything as a one off and I don't read up to get an overview of what the vox populi think or say what I should think.

This simply wasn't involving at all and to add to what I've already said, most of the main characters were clichéd and the actors dulled by the watery direction throughout. Even if I added "cult status" to it, in an attempt to give it a big dose of slack I'd still be struggling.

I fully understand that a lot of makes something good or at least watchable for people can come down to personal taste, but when the basics of what I'd consider fundamental to making this so are simply not there, it's hard to offer up anything more than to say this is near the top of the forgettable pile for me.

Shamikebab · 20 Sep 2013 at 11:54

Meridian said:
The lynching that the fanatics are about to give you? Personally, I think that you exaggerate a bit, but generally have it right. It suffered from the same problem that pretty much all TV (and film) SF suffers from: the total lack of involvement of anyone who understands SF. Like, say, a proper SF writer. They would have told Whedon that (for example) "Wild West in Space" is not an original concept, but a tired old cliché that was discredited right back in the 1950s. And that if you must play that game, keep it subtle. I suspect that the character interaction would have got better, but when you consider it's what made Whedon famous, is was poor. It just never seemed natural. Slow direction didn't help either. It was by no means bad, just not the all-conquering greatest series in the universe that some seem to think.

It's difficult to decide where you're most wrong but I think the bolded part wins it.

Um, heard of Buffy? That kind of made Whedon famous. As for the rest of it, we've established before that you don't like the show (yet weirdly you keep checking this thread)

scorza · 20 Sep 2013 at 12:53

Mr Blonde said:
Well if anyone would like to educate me as to the subtleties that we both missed (the second time round for me) then I'm all ears. Fan-boys need not apply mind...

What's the point mate? You didn't like it, fair enough, move on. I feel the same way about Breaking Bad. What can anyone possibly say to make you like something? Why would anyone want to make you like something?

Mr Blonde · 20 Sep 2013 at 13:31

scorza said:
What's the point mate? You didn't like it, fair enough, move on. I feel the same way about Breaking Bad. What can anyone possibly say to make you like something? Why would anyone want to make you like something?

As this isn't GD or Yahoo I had hoped that someone who liked the series might like to take a minute or two to simply state why they liked it, instead of the masses of "it's great" and "buy it" comments throughout this thread.

Funnily enough, I'll be starting Breaking Bad over the weekend...

GoogalyMoogaly · 20 Sep 2013 at 13:42

Shamikebab said:
Um, heard of Buffy? That kind of made Whedon famous. As for the rest of it, we've established before that you don't like the show (yet weirdly you keep checking this thread)

I think he was refering to character interaction being what made Whedon famous, rather than the show firefly.

scorza said:
What's the point mate? You didn't like it, fair enough, move on. I feel the same way about Breaking Bad. What can anyone possibly say to make you like something? Why would anyone want to make you like something?

+1

Also struggling with Breaking Bad.

As for Firefly, I thought the characters and interactions were great and along with the typical Joss Whedon sprinkling of humour Ithought it made the show. admittedly some ofthe storylines were a bit weak, but it was a first series and a lot of shows take a while to find what works and really get going.

Most people I know like it, the exception being the guy that preferred Star Trek because Firefly just wasn't realistic...

Shamikebab · 20 Sep 2013 at 14:02

GoogalyMoogaly said:
I think he was refering to character interaction being what made Whedon famous, rather than the show firefly.

Ah well, he's still in a thread (again) talking about a show he clearly didn't like, why? Taste is a purely subjective thing but he's talking like it's fact.

Meridian · 20 Sep 2013 at 18:02

GoogalyMoogaly said:
I think he was refering to character interaction being what made Whedon famous, rather than the show firefly.

Precisely. Whedon was actually pretty well known before he made (TV) Buffy, which is why it got green-lit in the first place. And most people agree that it wasn't the (mostly silly and cheaply made-up) monsters which made that series, but the interactions between characters. Which were there right from the off. Which is why the weakness of such interactions were one of the things which made Firefly a plod to watch at times. You keep waiting for the characters to snap out of their comas, but they never do.

Shamikebab · 20 Sep 2013 at 18:03

Says you, I think it's safe to say you're in the minority here.