Bradley Manning - 35yrs in the slammer :(

DisrupTor75 said:
Really? I would like to know exactly what he gained by leaking this information? :rolleyes:

Look at the barbaric treatment he has had to endure. Dress it up in Orwellian doublespeak if you wish but the guy was tortured by the state while the very people behind the killings are free.

Would you not, at the very least, want those people "brought to justice"?
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You realy think he thought he would get caught, what he tought does not equal what he got.

America has the death sentence yet crimals by and large do not think about what might happen they think they can get away with it. Especially in such a case with diplomatic immunity and he probably thought it wouldn't of even gone that far.

If there's a case to be awnsers yes. But again he didnt just leak those articles. Restyling your argument. He leaked everything he got his hands on. Vast majority was not cover ups or of any public interest.
 
FoxEye said:
Ultimately, Manning's and Snowden's leaks will achieve nothing. And will achieve nothing at huge personal cost to themselves.

Did anyone expect this outcome to be different?
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They have achieved one thing.
no one will leak any more in the future.
 
Nexus said:
I'm sure to many Americans it was probably a bit of a wake up call, they will regularly hear about the atrocities that go in many third world countries and even just over the boarder in Mexico. But they probably didn't expect their own soldiers to be doing it to.
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They should do. Because that's exactly what happened in Vietnam. Women, children, died by the hundreds or thousands. In fact it was a favourite tactic of the enemy to fire shots from friendly villages, so that the return fire from US troops would kill unarmed civilians.

Not to mention, when carpet bombing Dresden or nuking Japan, how many innocents were killed then...
 
FoxEye said:
They should do. Because that's exactly what happened in Vietnam. Women, children, died by the hundreds or thousands. In fact it was a favourite tactic of the enemy to fire shots from friendly villages, so that the return fire from US troops would kill unarmed civilians.

Not to mention, when carpet bombing Dresden or nuking Japan, how many innocents were killed then...
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They just love collateral damage.

Even their policies in Afghanistan and Iraq years later from when they first started are poor, much more lenient than the British and other Countries engagement rules.
 
The marines who killed 24 Iraqi civilians including 7 children and a 76yr old man in a wheelchair at Haditha got a total of zero custodial time.

To use a military acronym, FUBAR.
 
Man does something for the good of humanity, and gets ****ed by his government.

It's called making an example of him, "Don't inform the people of what we're doing to them"

Remember that part in Animal Farm, where Napoleon has a whole bunch of animals killed for "betraying" them. Well, that, governments will do anything to prevent bad press.
 
Fenris said:
Do you by any chance work in government? I ask because I don't expect to read this kind of vitriolic response from anyone without a vested interest in putting people like Manning down.

God only know how someone as small minding as you got Man of Honour.
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Some of us are not as anti establishment as others on here, simple as that.

As said, he broke the law, in a big way. Deal with it.
 
For those wondering, yes he will be eligible for parole in something like 8 years (1/3 of his full sentence) as he has already served 3.5 years of his term.
 
FoxEye said:
They should do. Because that's exactly what happened in Vietnam. Women, children, died by the hundreds or thousands. In fact it was a favourite tactic of the enemy to fire shots from friendly villages, so that the return fire from US troops would kill unarmed civilians.

Not to mention, when carpet bombing Dresden or nuking Japan, how many innocents were killed then...
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Again, of course, but that's an America that was supposedly left behind, especially when they became essentially a policing force of the world. Not to mention we live in a vastly different planet to that during WW2 or the late 60s.
 
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Pretty lenient sentence if you ask me, was always under the impression that treason was punishable by death in America.

Anyhow silly boy, should have thought long and hard about what he was doing before going full retard and leaking these secrets etc.
 
Just heard this on the news. Certainly not as harsh as it could have been and the fact he could get parole in 8 years good news. I think the defence will be relatively content.
 
FoxEye said:
They should do. Because that's exactly what happened in Vietnam. Women, children, died by the hundreds or thousands. In fact it was a favourite tactic of the enemy to fire shots from friendly villages, so that the return fire from US troops would kill unarmed civilians.

Not to mention, when carpet bombing Dresden or nuking Japan, how many innocents were killed then...
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you know we carpet bombed Germany too right?
 
Glaucus said:
Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., told Politico.
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Oh that's ok then, I didn't realise a politician had told people that the public can now get the names and addresses of "State Department officials & U.S. military officials"

Nice work there sherlock.

Now where's this evidence of "dangerous info" ?
 
Daze said:
He abused his position and the trust that was afforded to him. He took an oath to his country and was expected to uphold their laws and interests, but he's just disrespected and broke them completely. Deserves what he got.
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the same was said of Hugh Thompson.
 
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