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4930K benchys early look. Conclusion.. Meh.

Wccftech have the pre-order pricing info:

Intel Ivy Bridge-E Pre Order Pricing has been revealed. They range from a a Pre-Order Price of 342 US Dollars to 1140 US Dollars. This is slightly more then the predicted prices leaked previously this year. The difference is as much as 150 US Dollars. Though seeing these are Pre-Order Pricing it is very likely that prices will fall dramatically in the time to come.

The Intel Ivy Bridge-E Pre Order Pricing for the Core i7-4960X is $1140. The Leaked Price was $990. The retail is without HSF as was the case with Sandy Bridge-E. Th packaging uses a grey color scheme to depict the Ultra High End Spectrum and features the Item Code “CPU-INL-BX80633i74960X”.

Intel Ivy Bridge-E Pre Order PricingThe Intel Ivy Bridge-E Pre Order Pricing for the Core i7-4930K is $648.4. The Leaked Price was $555. The Retail once again is without HSF. The color scheme is Intel’s Standard Blue and features the Item Code “CPU-INL-BX80633i74930k”.

Intel Ivy Bridge-E Pre Order PricingThe Intel Ivy Bridge-E Pre Order Pricing for the Intel Core i7-4820k is $342. The Leaked Price was $310. The Retail is without HSF and features the Standard Blue Intel Color Scheme. The Item Code is “CPU-INL-BX80633i74820k”
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So if this doesn't work out well, nobody will bother selling their 3930Ks, which is annoying because I want an upgrade but there is no clear benefit even from my 2500K. Even paying £350 for a 3930K seems wasteful.

CPUs suck right now.
 
Was talking about this with some other tech savvy friends down the pub last night, few cool points were made, in the end we came to the conclusion that its reasonable to expect the 4820K to match the 4770K on overclocking performance and so the 4930K should be quite good.

The rationale for this, is that SB was able to match IB on overclocking performance (I.E IB has better IPC but SB clocked higher so it evened out) and IB-E has a soldered IHS, which means the difference between SB-E and IB-E should be on par with the difference between SB and naked IB (which removes SB's clocking advantage). This then means that the difference between IB-E and Haswell should be the same as the difference between naked IB and Haswell, which is basically Haswell has better IPC but naked IB clocks higher, so the overclocked performance should either be equal or in IB-E's favor.

Bearing in mind IB-E has a stronger IMC than SB-E which means higher memory clocks will be attainable it's looking quite promising. I am now leaning quite strongly towards picking up a 4930K at launch :P
 
Boomstick777 said:
5% performance increase in 2 years is poor by most peoples estimations. If this was GPU's for example they would be straight up laughed at. The drop in power consumption is good but yeah you would expect a little better from such a high priced tier of products.

You may be happy with current CPU's and think they good enough but there is still lot's of room for performance increases, lower power use / more cores etc, and at the very least price reductions due to the cost savings for Intel. There is a massive market for performance computer parts. If there wasn't we wouldn't be here talking about it would we?

To say well it's ok for Intel to charge an arm and a leg for 5% after 2 years because CPU's these days are good enough just isn't logical. If we thought like that no one would ever upgrade and Intel would never sell anything.. It's counter intuitive. Intel need to feed the market but are drip feeding us performance as there is lack of direct competition. That is the only reason they can get away with 5% after two years. This isn't good for the consumer, hopefully AMD can make things competitive again with Steamroller..

It won't matter to you because you're happy with what you've got already :p
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I never said I'm happy with what I've got, I would love a Ivy-E or more likely Haswell-E at some point. What I was saying though is that you can't really expect performance for performance sake. When software is such that the average run-of-the-mill PC can handle it with ease where is the incentive to offer huge performance leaps? Sure you can splurge 3k on upgrades and perhaps you can render, encode or fold a bit faster but the enthusiast market is comparatively tiny. Games in general seems to have stagnated a bit in the past couple of years and it is no coincidence PC hardware has done the same. I hope with the next gen consoles things might start to pick up a bit again - judging by the press release videos looks like they might :)
 
Hmm there is currently 10 available for £469 but when i had my tea this morning and did a google i found out some nasty info! Apparantly 4930k will be the first ever consumer CPU with SSD overclocking! I am not sure how that will work or if this is X79 feature locked to Ivy or a new X89 feature? It says it will be limited obviously by the sata 6gb interface but that is around 700mb read and write and my single SSD only does 530mb per channel.If i can overclock to 700 reads win win.


Now there’s word that Intel is going to show yet another PC part that could be overclocked: SSDs. The WCCFTech website reports that the company will reveal that its upcoming Ivy Bridge-E platform will be the first to allow for the overclocking of SSDs on a desktop. The reveal will be made as part of a session on September 10th during the annual Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco.

There are two big questions about this feature: How will users be able to overclock SSDs in the first place and how much of a performance gain will be achieved with this method? The article says that Intel may have found a way to use the Ivy Bridge-E platform to speed up the clock rate of the SSD controller speeds which, in theory, would also increase the transfer rate of its NAND Flash memory.

However, the same report also claims that, at least for now, the performance gains for overclocking SSDs would be small, thanks to the current limitations of the SATA 6 GB/s
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http://wccftech.com/intel-showcase-ssd-overclocking-idf13-san-francisco-ivy-bridgee-cpus/

And to top it off now nasty rumors abound of Intel broadwell only working on Z9X chipsets due to weird power requirments now on both motherboard AND power supplys :(
 
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Hakanese said:
I know, just sucks, I was expecting more from this release tbh.
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I don't really understand how anyone expected the performance diff between SB-E and IB-E to be any bigger than the diff between SB and naked IB. IB-E was always going to be ~equal performance with Haswell but with the extra X79 features and >4 cores.
 
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