Poll: Which Next Gen Console will you buy? - Final version (honest!)

What console(s) will you buy during the launch window?

  • I will buy both consoles during the launch window

    Votes: 67 6.5%
  • I will buy an Xbox One only during the launch window

    Votes: 185 18.0%
  • I will buy a PS4 only during the launch window

    Votes: 395 38.4%
  • I will buy neither console during the launch window

    Votes: 286 27.8%
  • I'm still undecided

    Votes: 95 9.2%

  • Total voters
    1,028
I think the only, single reason Microsoft has made changes is because of the pre order numbers. I don't think they wanted to nor expected to have such a negative reaction. I think they thought that they could do this and the gamers / customers would just swallow the money shot.
I doubt it was soley pre order numbers in a "$ sort of way" beyond it is a way of measuring customer reaction to be honest. There was plenty of twitter and other activity that would have signaled to MS that right or wrong they weren't getting across to customers why they thought XO had some great new stuff.

I have no empirical proof but I suspect pre order numbers actually make up a single digit % of lifetime sales over it's expected 10 year life so whilst yes, the numbers would have been involved I suspect it was more as a measure of customer feedback than OMG we won't make $s at Christmas and XO is only ever going to sell 3 boxes (although of course that would be a consideration)".

Either way, the fact that they listened and continue to change things suggests to me an absolutely opposite of arrogance and disregard for their customers requirements/thoughts/feelings. Not many global companies would have the grace to stand up and say "we got it wrong, how about this instead" to it's customers.
 
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And why do you think Sony made no changes from last gen? Do you genuinely think they're white knights, championing the future of gaming....or do you think they saw the opportunity to get one up on Microsoft and get more preorders? Neither of them care about you except as a source of money.

I'm not sure I've said that Sony are the white knights of gaming, but feel free to find me saying that :).

I think that with the changes to the EA 'online pass' thing, that indicated that Sony and Microsoft were both going to go down the 'always online' type thing, but Sony just saw hints of negativity from gamers and jumped the gun, so to speak.

I'm fully aware that I'm just a $ sign, but Sony saw a way to get more of the $ from the start, where Microsoft misjudged it (and got the message all wrong).
 
I'm not sure I've said that Sony are the white knights of gaming, but feel free to find me saying that :).

I think that with the changes to the EA 'online pass' thing, that indicated that Sony and Microsoft were both going to go down the 'always online' type thing, but Sony just saw hints of negativity from gamers and jumped the gun, so to speak.

I'm fully aware that I'm just a $ sign, but Sony saw a way to get more of the $ from the start, where Microsoft misjudged it (and got the message all wrong).

But then shouldn't we be happy that they've reacted and changed? Basically people are angry at MS for going with a vision.....then angry with them for changing that vision after feedback...it's ridiculous.
 
What features are those? Genuinely interested :)

Cloud gaming with Gaikai, shared play which allows a friend to jump into your game and talk you through a section you're stuck on, or physically take over to help you out. Video sharing and editing built in, remote play which will be incredibly handy as I have a Vita, plus the new OS looks very nice to use also. :)
 
I think the only, single reason Microsoft has made changes is because of the pre order numbers. I don't think they wanted to nor expected to have such a negative reaction. I think they thought that they could do this and the gamers / customers would just swallow the money shot.

The PR / Marketing department just messed it up from the get go and took the gamers for granted.

This.

Microsoft didn't change all their plans out of the kindness of their heart, or because they actually care about what gamers want. They don't. It was only because everybody said '**** off Microsoft you are not having my money.' that they changed their plans.
 
I doubt it was soley pre order numbers in a "$ sort of way" beyond it is a way of measuring customer reaction to be honest. There was plenty of twitter and other activity that would have signaled to MS that right or wrong they weren't getting across to customers why they thought XO had some great new stuff.

I have no empirical proof but I suspect pre order numbers actually make up a single digit % of lifetime sales over it's expected 10 year life so whilst yes, the numbers would have been involved I suspect it was more as a measure of customer feedback than OMG we won't make $s at Christmas and XO is only ever going to sell 3 boxes (although of course that would be a consideration)".

I agree to an extent, but I think that Microsoft didn't fancy being left behind at launch and starting way behind Sony in that sense.

I think the changes have been to close the gap at release and keep gamers happy in so much as they buy the console.
 
This.

Microsoft didn't change all their plans out of the kindness of their heart, or because they actually care about what gamers want. They don't. It was only because everybody said '**** off Microsoft you are not having my money.' that they changed their plans.

How naive are you? Why do you think any company does anything? Do you think Sony give games on PS+ out of the goodness of their own hearts? :confused:
 
Cloud gaming with Gaikai, shared play which allows a friend to jump into your game and talk you through a section you're stuck on, or physically take over to help you out. Video sharing and editing built in, remote play which will be incredibly handy as I have a Vita, plus the new OS looks very nice to use also. :)
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I agree to an extent, but I think that Microsoft didn't fancy being left behind at launch and starting way behind Sony in that sense.

I think the changes have been to close the gap at release and keep gamers happy in so much as they buy the console.
Sorry Tummy, I went back and edited my post a little, perhaps I should have made it a separate post, just thought i'd point it out so it doesn't look like you snipped something I said :)
 
Cloud gaming with Gaikai, shared play which allows a friend to jump into your game and talk you through a section you're stuck on, or physically take over to help you out. Video sharing and editing built in, remote play which will be incredibly handy as I have a Vita, plus the new OS looks very nice to use also. :)
The remote play on Vita is the best feature for me, it'll be really handy in the future I think. I'm not overly bothered about streaming older games through Gaikai or the Cloud (MS have said today they may do something similar with old 360 games), as I generally keep my older consoles anyway :)
 
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