The stupid or just unlucky?

Considering the fog from the last couple of mornings I'm not surprised to see so many people incapable of driving to the conditions. It's always a case of no lights and drive as close as possible to the car in front. But no-one was breaking the speed limit so they were driving safely eh? :rolleyes:

Yeah because the situation would have been so much better and injuries so less severe if people were driving at 80-100MPH :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
I did think the visibility was poor this morning (other side of Kent though)

It's amazing how something like this can happen. We can all look forward to rising insurance premiums now when they all file whiplash claims.
 
I don't believe the BS about nobody had any lights on.

At midday on the M6 every single car had fog lights, side lights, full beam, interior reading light, glove-box light, all indicators and both brake lights on, some even manage to get their reversing lights on as well as waving a handful of 1000 lumen torches out of the window.

If there is one thing the UK motorist can do it's driving around with every freaking light bulb lit :mad:
 
It's no better down here, either.

I can guarantee if the weather is fine for a few weeks, and then it rains hard overnight or continues raining through to the morning.. There will be a pile up on the way to work.

People in general are morons.
 
Being from the area and on the same roads at around 7:30, can say there were a LOT of people with no lights on, which is inexcusable for the amount of fog present, especially around the marshes where the fog is always most severe.

Surreal driving past it in the fog and then seeing it on Sky news hours after though, it was absolute carnage.
 
This is where America is better, people over there (generally) don't drive like they just lost the will to live.

Of course their roads were designed for the cars, while ours are either ancient, less than ancient or mildly useful.
 
Out of interest, why does that link show a highlighted area of Kent but not include the Chatham-Gillingham-Rochester area? These places are in Kent I thought?

Never sure if this is allowed or not:



Don't hotlink images - Rilot

Chatham, Gillingham and Rochester are in Kent so i'm not sure what that's about either?! Used to live in Chatham now Maidstone and Kent was definitely in my address. :)

Medway is a unitary authority or something, so technically it's actually separate from Kent (Google "Medway" and see the Wiki link).

In reality, it's pretty much part of Kent and treated as such.

As for no one having lights on, I can very well believe it; when I left for work this morning there was thick fog for most of the way, yet still people with not so much as a sidelight illuminated.
 
ORLY?

Car ahead of you suddenly stops in 0.000001 meters because it's hit an immovable object.
Even though you've left the correct 2 second gap ahead of you, you've got brand new continentals and AP Racing 6pot brakes, you cannot stop in time. If the car ahead had braked at full power over however many meters you'd be able to brake in time, but not when he's hit a brick wall/arctic truck and stopped dead in his tracks.

A 2 second gap in thick fog is a joke. Therefore yes you would be to blame for not driving according to the conditions.
 
problem if even if you're sfe if the eprson behind you isnt ocne you're stopped your stil l****ed when they rear end you.
 
ORLY?

Car ahead of you suddenly stops in 0.000001 meters because it's hit an immovable object.
Even though you've left the correct 2 second gap ahead of you, you've got brand new continentals and AP Racing 6pot brakes, you cannot stop in time. If the car ahead had braked at full power over however many meters you'd be able to brake in time, but not when he's hit a brick wall/arctic truck and stopped dead in his tracks.

Some may question why you didn't notice the stopped arctic truck :p
 
Driving too close plus too hurry and yes stupid for not switch light on... should take care and keep distance each cars, trucks... never drive too close cos the brake is not stop too quickly when it reach 70mph... so insurance may not pay the bill for some people... too hurry to drive is very silly..
 
The A14 accident this morning happened for the same reason. Two lorries came together in fog near Huntingdon making the already painful eastbound trip to Cambridge a nightmare. But it was all because everyone tail gates down that stretch of road bumper to bumper at 70mph and if you leave a gap to the car in front it gets filled by another car.

The best thing is the Fog was not particularly think. Nothing like coming out of Norfolk was this morning coming down the A11.
 
This is where America is better, people over there (generally) don't drive like they just lost the will to live.

Of course their roads were designed for the cars, while ours are either ancient, less than ancient or mildly useful.

They also have ridiculously slow speed limits.

If you want an example of good driving then I'd say look at Germany.

Higher levels of driver training are required but I imagine they'll stick some cameras on the bridge and that will fix everything. :rolleyes:
 
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A 2 second gap in thick fog is a joke. Therefore yes you would be to blame for not driving according to the conditions.

No idea on the conditions since I wasn't there, but you realise thick fog can happen in an instant don't you? Like just blow across the carriageway and remove visibility very quickly with no warning?

Before I even saw that picture of the front of the pile up, I thought that one driver would have panicked when they lost visibility & braked too hard/emergencied. Those behind cant react in time due to the changed conditions & pile in. It spreads across lanes & you're done.

Slow down in fog, put your lights and fogs on if they're not already. Do not ****ing stop dead.
 
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