9/11 crap again, what do you think?

phill1978 · 10 Sep 2013 at 18:54

ok 1 piece of evidence ... real evidence, which unless you are one of the most naive of people and im talking STAGGERINGLY naive is this:

Picture in your mind (or watch the videos) of the plane disintegrating on impact 500+ mph, watch the melting crumbling building with millions of tonnes of pressure and melted steel. Then picture the other plane doing the same thing..

What could have survived? the black box? an engine.. ANYTHING ??

do you know what the NYPD found a few blocks away?.. an undamaged, an singed or burnt paper passport of one of the terrorist SatamSuqami not even a scrap of dust.

http://s882.photobucket.com/user/ujisx/media/Satam_Suqami_Passport_Cover.jpg.html

This isn't some top level investigative journalism but just some information put out by the authorities about the attacks to create the story. Its real, it was released they said it happened. We have seen this for ever and a day its called a plant. Its not even a theory this was part of the official story.

the problem is twofold.

1. Most conspiracies are bull crap
2. Most people don't know all the counter argument facts on the ones that are not.

We will probably never know what happened but we have seen the very real events on the world stage that happened afterwards claimed a million lives and will in the end perhaps trigger WW3 if things get really, really messed up.

We are all effected by this even though it was 5,000 miles away. To this day all the current spying scandals are based from this event all your digital privacy is now gone all your cities are filled with thousands of cameras

MooMoo444 · 10 Sep 2013 at 18:54

Uncle Petey said:
Keep the sweeping generalisations coming.

Would you like some new ones? What is your point?

Because that's not how the 'rational' anti-CT guys carry on is it?

Besides, you've posted very little that's worthy of agreement or disagreement.

If you can come up with some new ones it would be interesting yes. I think all the made up connections and stories have reached their limit by now, you'd have to be pretty creative.

Or, like the rest of us, you can accept the video and photo evidence that a plane hit the towers and just get on with your life. It was a sad day and hopefully security measures have improved enough.

I can't begin to imagine the hurt all these theories about it being a government job etc is causing to the families of those affected. Especially when its brought up every year.

areksnumbr1sxylady · 10 Sep 2013 at 18:54

deuse said:
Who said that? oh that's right no one...trolling again I see.

There are 1000s of Fema camps across the US they look like normal places for family's with swings\rides ect

It says on the front door that people are free to come and go but no one left when my mate worked just by it they only went in.

Who knows what there for but there is one just outside of orlando with 100s of military vehicles in side.

you are beyond saving.

areksnumbr1sxylady · 10 Sep 2013 at 18:56

Tefal said:
if anyone was free to come and go, why didn't your mate go in and find out what they are for?

but no one ever left only entered?

wha tare they doing stockpiling delivery men? im impressed any such compound can exist with only people entering never leaving, youd think it would fill exponetaly fast as more supplies have to be delivered and the drivers never leave again, meaning mroe stuff needs delivering etc

because you go and never come back. :eek:

gillywibble · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:00

MooMoo444 said:
I can't begin to imagine the hurt all these theories about it being a government job etc is causing to the families of those affected. Especially when its brought up every year.

They don't believe the official story either.

AndyT · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:04

gillywibble said:
They don't believe the official story either.

Evidence?

areksnumbr1sxylady · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:07

AndyT said:
Evidence?

gillywibble · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:07

Werewolf said:
Would these be the "FEMA death camps" complete with plastic "coffins" that just happen to not only be the same sort of size as standard water storage containers, but made the same way?

I have no idea whether they are coffins or not. The camps exist, and Obama has publically stated as much. Leaked documents have shown they will be for 'political dissidents'. Read into that what you will.

phill1978 · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:12

Lazder & other name callers I provided you with some evidence of 'almost' impossible possibility to be anything other than a plant

a sealed aircraft pulverized into concrete and steel at 500mph , an old soft passport found un-burnt and un damaged without dust near by a few blocks away that somehow without any windows having time to smash on the plane and given they were apparently in the cabin also on impact remains perfectly in tact.

is the explanation .. "well anything's possible"

if so then i would say yes anything is possible even a staged event of this magnitude

Scougar · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:13

It's easier for some people to believe that it's an inside job, than to admit that America is capable of being attacked. It's their coping mechanism.

areksnumbr1sxylady · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:16

phill1978 said:
Lazder & other name callers I provided you with some evidence of 'almost' impossible possibility to be anything other than a plant

Present it to UN council, since we are about to go to war over few videos, I guess this solid evidence will do well

phill1978 · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:17

Scougar said:
It's easier for some people to believe that it's an inside job, than to admit that America is capable of being attacked. It's their coping mechanism.

not really they were in other countries at war and expected reprisals since vietnam and the cold war. The movies fortold of such events as did tv shows in actual like for like episodes where terrorist flew planes into the WTC.

Tefal · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:18

phill1978 said:
Lazder & other name callers I provided you with some evidence of 'almost' impossible possibility to be anything other than a plant

a sealed aircraft pulverized into concrete and steel at 500mph , an old soft passport found un-burnt and un damaged without dust near by a few blocks away that somehow without any windows having time to smash on the plane and given they were apparently in the cabin also on impact remains perfectly in tact.

is the explanation .. "well anything's possible"

if so then i would say yes anything is possible even a staged event of this magnitude

why do it then?

if it's so very obvious why would they risk the massive operation they've done in such an amateurish way. they've kept so many people quiet, performed amazing work in complete secrecy in setting it all then **** up like that?

don't you think thats even more implausible?

oh and documents have survived lots of plane crashes. PSA Flight 182 was pretty sevre iirc,and they found stuf scattered everywhere.

phill1978 · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:18

Lazder said:
Present it to UN council, since we are about to go to war over few videos, I guess this solid evidence will do well

trolling again. not sure why i bothered to reply and i don't think given the grave circumstances smiley faces are appropriate not that you would care

with regards to the passport answer how it could reasonably happen then...

phill1978 · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:24

Tefal said:
oh and documents have survived lots of plane crashes. PSA Flight 182 was pretty sevre iirc,and they found stuf scattered everywhere.

300mph at 50% angle smash slide VS direct 500MPH impact into concrete and steel pulverized seen on video..

yes things do survive i cant deny that but we physically saw the complete evisceration of the planes here.

Also yes i do think its possible for them to be amateurish all told, the Americans are known for gungho attitudes and friendly fire incidents abroad, slips ups on TV and scandals (monika lewinski). Also given at the time they had Bush in power who was legendarily slow at times..

So yea i think its possible

Werewolf · 10 Sep 2013 at 19:31

phill1978 said:
ok 1 piece of evidence ... real evidence, which unless you are one of the most naive of people and im talking STAGGERINGLY naive is this:

Picture in your mind (or watch the videos) of the plane disintegrating on impact 500+ mph, watch the melting crumbling building with millions of tonnes of pressure and melted steel. Then picture the other plane doing the same thing..

What could have survived? the black box? an engine.. ANYTHING ??

do you know what the NYPD found a few blocks away?.. an undamaged, an singed or burnt paper passport of one of the terrorist SatamSuqami not even a scrap of dust.

http://s882.photobucket.com/user/ujisx/media/Satam_Suqami_Passport_Cover.jpg.html

This isn't some top level investigative journalism but just some information put out by the authorities about the attacks to create the story. Its real, it was released they said it happened. We have seen this for ever and a day its called a plant. Its not even a theory this was part of the official story.

I would really honestly and truly suggest you read up on other crashes, a lot of the 'evidence' used to support the CT's about 911 because they're "unusual" are anything but when you look at other air crashes.

Passports (and other paper products) survive air crashes and the subsequent fires surprisingly well, from memory it's something to do with the fact that they can get carried by the hot air etc a lot further than heavier stuff from the pure momentum imparted by the crash, so whilst parts of the plane would likely have ended up inside the main debris site where the towers fell, paper products could end up a lot further away - pushed in part by the air movement as the towers fell.
Even in crashes where the aircraft hits head first into a mountain and catches fire you can often find things like passports, brochures, pictures and wallets etc thrown clean (often with barely any damage).
IIRC they found a fair amount of other stuff outside from the aircraft, but it's rarely mentioned on the CT sites because it weakens their argument.

From memory they also found paper related debris from the towers a long distance from the site for much the same reason, and they started off stationary (no pun intended), as opposed to being in a tin can moving at several hundred miles per hour.