*** iPhone 5S/5C - September 10th ***

Skyboat said:
I still prefer native apps. Just look at Facebook, the only thing I've noticed that the mobile app is lacking is being able to directly reply to other comments. Everything else, works brilliantly, and just goes to show how optimising something for a specific screen size results in a much better user experience.
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Oh so do i! Twitter and LinkedIn apps are great and much better to use then the website counterparts on a mobile. I'm talking about websites that don't have App counterparts, which is a vast majority unfortunately and all forums that i use (can't stand Tapatalk)

And all apps on android scale whatever the resolution or screen size of the device, of course on android you can change the DPI if you want to take advantage of the extra resolution and screen size of the bigger phones
 
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Tapatalk gets a lot of stick. I've tried/seen the very early versions and yes they were terrible, pointless using them. The last two versions I've tried have matured a lot. At least on iOS they feel more native and better thought-through.

AVForums.com's app also isn't bad, the biggest plus of using the app is push notifications for subscribed topics. That alone is worth keeping it installed.

Anyway it's a shame this forum doesn't have a native API, instead to pull any data off here requires Google-like HTML scraping which is a major PITA.
 
Somnambulist said:
NFC is bigger in the east.

With Apple being an American company, and a large portion of their sales coming from the US/EU, NFC is something they simply will not bother with until the infrastructure and demand for NFC is high in these markets and it's all in place. Including something for a service that's barely out of the womb in this part of the world is putting the cart before the horse. Someone said companies are waiting on Apple... well...

What they're doing with Touch ID is planting a seed - you can use your fingerprint to unlock your phone and use as verification for iTunes purchases. Innocent enough, but... "the iPhone 5S is our most forward thinking iPhone yet" - I think was the quote - what Apple have done, IMO, is tackle a security issue (because people will, for better or worse think that Touch ID is all super secure) that paves the way for them to enter the NFC market in the future with their own verification system. I bet in a few years you'll be able to use Touch ID in and at all sorts of sites and places.
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Interesting theory.

I've owned an NFC enabled phone for several years now, waiting for the technology to take off because I can't wait to ditch the majority of the cards in my wallet. After a while I realised it wasn't going to happen unless Apple did something with it, because they have a knack of marketing these things and generating the necessary hype etc.

So, I hope you're right and this Touch ID stuff is the beginning of true mobile payments. Obviously I'd rather have a standard over some proprietary Apple system, but if used in conjunction with NFC then I'm fine with that.
 
lamboman said:
They said in the keynote that no apps can use it, I think. However, hardly a gimmick, nobody can guess your fingerprint...
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You can still unlock it with a code though, so what if they have it set so you can use either to unlock? people can still get into your phone.
 
Clov!s said:
You can still unlock it with a code though, so what if they have it set so you can use either to unlock? people can still get into your phone.
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Without chopping your finger off, or you disclosing your password there isn't any other way in.

Passcodes (not passwords) can be brute-forced by mobile phone forensic software such as Cellebrite's UFED and Microsystemation's .XRY
 
Happy iPhone 5 user, likely won't be switching to the 5S. I think most people will find that iOS 7 will be just like getting a new phone anyway.

For the price, I still don't quite understand what Apple are trying to do with the 5C.
 
Tried using a laptop with a fingerprint scanner? Haha terrible, cant see how a glass phone with the possibility of smudges and the fact when it rains you get your phone out to unlock it and you can't!! About the most useless feature I can imagine. So many possible ways to fail, you wonder why other phone manufactures have not embedded this system? Its been out years as a technology point. I just have to assume its a gimmick to have a few new ads say 'he look I can unlock my phone with my thumb' guess what we have been doing this years with pattern unlock and passwords!
 
pokerking said:
Tried using a laptop with a fingerprint scanner? Haha terrible, cant see how a glass phone with the possibility of smudges and the fact when it rains you get your phone out to unlock it and you can't!! About the most useless feature I can imagine. So many possible ways to fail, you wonder why other phone manufactures have not embedded this system? Its been out years as a technology point. I just have to assume its a gimmick to have a few new ads say 'he look I can unlock my phone with my thumb' guess what we have been doing this years with pattern unlock and passwords!
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I bet it will be excellent, they wouldn't have risked it otherwise. We'll soon see.
 
You can also buy laptops that have fingerprint scanners built in.

How come banks dont use finger print scanners instead of typing in a pin in a pin card reader thingy you get from HSBC etc?
 
jonneymendoza said:
You can also buy laptops that have fingerprint scanners built in.

How come banks dont use finger print scanners instead of typing in a pin in a pin card reader thingy you get from HSBC etc?
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Could you imagine the amount of phone calls they would get over it not working lol, all you need to do is graze your finger/thumb.
Pin numbers will always have to be there as a backup anyway.
 
I am guessing, and hoping, that during R&D testing, they hit rate for this fingerprint unlock is above 90%. To release something like this and for it to only work only 50% of the time would be premature.

But if it's not that accurate, hopefully it only need an software update to fix any bugs.
 
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