Cyclist plague spreading

he went into the back of him? That's the cyclist's fault isn't it? Either going too fast or too close or not paying attention. Take your pick. He rode into a car.
 
Chris Hoy is a nobber, the cyclist is at fault, he hit the car in front, not the car hit the cyclist. If anything the car owner should claim off the cyclist (who doesn't have insurance I suspect) for any damage to his vehicle.

(He shouldn't have driven off though, that is illegal. Although he did stop and speak to the cyclist, so I don't know what the procedure would be for a cyclcist, who has no insurance details to give over and where there is clearly no injury?)
 
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mame said:
he went into the back of him? That's the cyclist's fault isn't it? Either going too fast or too close or not paying attention. Take your pick. He rode into a car.
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Castiel said:
Chris Hoy is a nobber, the cyclist is at fault, he hit the car in front, not the car hit the cyclist. If anything the car owner should claim off the cyclist (who doesn't have insurance I suspect) for any damage to his vehicle.

(He shouldn't have driven off though, that is illegal.)
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The tosspot overtook him and cut in front and stopped abruptly to use a cash point.. Drivers fault there.
The driver admitted to not seeing him.... This was not the chap on his bikes fault.

No insureance? I have insurance on my bike which will be much the same as a cars if I hit one...
Also he had concussion for 3 days, so not exactly no injury
 
"The tosspot overtook him and cut in front and stopped abruptly to use a cash point.. "

Good to have an eyewitness to the incident in the thread.
 
Errm, read the countless witness reports. Go make some more pointless threads and learn to use the quote button

What do you mean "oh its you' who on earth are you and your 70 posts
 
You may feel it is pointless, but the result of more people cycling is leading to more deaths.
I really don't think many of them realise how dangerous this fad is.
This guy was lucky, he just kissed an Audi hard.
 
Diagro said:
The tosspot overtook him and cut in front and stopped abruptly to use a cash point.. Drivers fault there.
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The cyclist should still have stopped, a cyclist is as responsible for anticipating other road users (and their idiocy) just as much as anyone else...he hit a stationary car, the car did not hit him.

Diagro said:
The driver admitted to not seeing him.... This was not the chap on his bikes fault.
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The cyclist was behind him, he is not expected to see him, he also said that he did not see him hit his vehicle, not that he did not see him at all. The cyclist should have been anticipating the road ahead in any event, clearly he wasn't.

Diagro said:
No insureance? I have insurance on my bike which will be much the same as a cars if I hit one...
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I suspect that such insurance is not the norm. Most insurance for cyclists only covers the actual cyclist and their bike, not third parties.

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Also he had concussion for 3 days, so not exactly no injury
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A mild concussion.....hmmm, ok. He didn't receive any hospital or roadside medical treatment that I can see, so we can only take his word for that.

The only thing the driver did wrong was refuse to swap insurance details...he is required to that regardless of the incident or fault.
 
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Amazing at all the comments on the dailymail page - according to the witness statements he overtook the cyclist and then pulled in on him.

The amount of people commenting to go "oh well he rode into the back of the car, what is the problem?" is crazy, surely you should be going by what the people who were actually there to witness the event are saying which is the driver hit the cyclist.

In addition, if he had been cycling behind the car and not anticipated that it may stop - how do you come to collide with the side rear window on a car in which you are following? That would require you to swerve around and back into the car. If the car pulled across you while half way through overtaking then that would be how to end up hitting the window.

If a car overtook another car and then pulled back into the lane too early clipping it on the side there would be no argument over who was at fault.
 
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altus said:
You may feel it is pointless, but the result of more people cycling is leading to more deaths.
I really don't think many of them realise how dangerous this fad is.
This guy was lucky, he just kissed an Audi hard.
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Cycling is a fad?
Sorry what.....?

It's a form of transport that predates cars by a long way, it was one of the first mechanised forms of transport from the 19th Century. Given its still going strong now, I think to call it just a 'fad' is more than a little shortsighted.

Oh and, Hello Troll! :rolleyes:
 
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Amazing at all the comments on the dailymail page - according to the witness statements he overtook the cyclist and then pulled in on him.

The amount of people commenting to go "oh well he rode into the back of the car, what is the problem?" is crazy, surely you should be going by what the people who were actually there to witness the event are saying which is the driver hit the cyclist.
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Exactly, people are ignoring the witness statements
 
Diagro said:
Exactly, people are ignoring the witness statements
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No they are not. They are simply not ascribing the accident as being entirely the drivers fault. It is not illegal to overtake a cyclist or to brake suddenly....the cyclist should have been paying more attention to what the vehicles in front of him were doing, this includes anticipating the road ahead and slowing or stopping if necessary...he clearly did not do this and ran into a stationary vehicle. Next time he might think to slow down on such a dangerous road for cyclists (as he made a point of stating) so that he could stop even if a car stops suddenly and unexpectedly in front of him in future. This doesn't mean that the driver has no fault, only that the Cyclist also has a responsibility to his own safety, which he has not followed.
 
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No they are not. They are simply not ascribing the accident as being entirely the drivers fault. It is not illegal to overtake a cyclist or to brake suddenly....the cyclist should have been paying more attention to what the vehicles in front of him were doing, this includes anticipating the road ahead and slowing or stopping if necessary...he clearly did not do this and ran into a stationary vehicle. Next time he might think to slow down on such a dangerous road for cyclists (as he made a point of stating) so that he could stop even if a car stops suddenly and unexpectedly in front of him in future.
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Even if the driver is an *******?

Sounds like the driver was not paying attention either?
 
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