Muslim Family Offended Over Offer Of Alcohol as Compensation For Being Sold Non-Halal Meat

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your "us and them" attitude?
I'm not the culture that's trying to impose itself on another, or calling for separate systems of law, or requiring separate methods of killing animals or insisting on separate types of dress for their schoolchildren or the 1001 other ways which muslims seek to separate themselves from any culture they arrive in.

The us and them attitude appears to lie entirely with muslims.

It's get even funnier when you consider brits have a reputation of being known as "moaners and complainers" world wide :o
Yep, we would probably make a thread about it, but take it back to the shop? That would be embarrassingly vulgar.

No it was only in the news for weeks on end and every major super market clearing shelves
That's newspapers and supermarkets, you didn't see people coming back to the store holding up a burger and being offended about it

Is ordering a vegetarian pasty, receiving a meat one and complaining forcing people to respect his choice of religion?
A 19p pasty? It's borderline insanity.
His reasons for rejecting it were entirely down to his religion, forcing the manager to accept his sky pixie nonesense as a legitimate reason for rejecting a perfectly good pasty.
What if I went back to ASDA with a half eaten box of chocolates, saying the strawberry ones do not comply with my Jedi religion as they are disgusting, I'm offended and I demand that you play along with my make believe Jedi fantasy by redeeming my half eaten box of chocolates.
No I do not want a bottle of champagne and I am offended that you were not aware that no Jedi can drink fermented grape from the Planet of France. I'm also offended on behalf of other Jedi who might shop here.
BTW I'm never shopping here again but I demand compensation for my offence.


muslims, annoying but hilarious.
 
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I'm not the culture that's trying to impose itself on another, or calling for separate systems of law, or requiring separate methods of killing animals or insisting on separate types of dress for their schoolchildren or the 1001 other ways which muslims seek to separate themselves from any culture they arrive in.

No you just do it in the worst way possible.

Isn't British culture accumulative of many other cultures? Isn't culture simply something that changes like fashion, considering how it was classed as inappropriate to dress sparingly only a few decades ago, not lady like.

How do any of the above affect you, most of the stuff you mention is implemented by Muslims for Muslims. Surely British culture is in fact one of freedoms and the choice to do what you like or is it simply freedom for you and not others? You seem to want everyone to be like you, but unfortunately the world doesn't work like that and hopefully I will be dead before that does happen ;)

The us and them attitude appears to lie entirely with the muslims.

So you are blaming Muslims now for stupid statements you make? How dare they.

Yep, we would probably make a thread about it, but take it back to the shop? That would be embarrassingly vulgar.

Oh so one form of complaining is ok but another isn't, ok I get it....

Try going to the Asda customer service desk in the evening and have a look at what people bring back. I've seen people using penny off coupons for Christ sake on a regular basis. Did he actually take it back? not seen that, thought he phoned and complained. heck if I bought a cheese and onion pasty from Greggs and it had a hair in it or anything other than that, I would complain too (maybe not the same day if I left the store but next time I went in). It's the principle not the value that matters.

That's newspapers and supermarkets, you didn't see people coming back to the store holding up a burger and being offended about it

Just because you didn't see anybody doesn't mean it didn't happen, perhaps you didn't see that because it wasn't being reported in a national newspaper? If I remember correctly all supermarket brands asked customers to return any items they may have stored in the freezer, I can assure you many did. they weren't treading on eggshells because customers were dandy with it.

A 19p pasty? It's borderline insanity.

It is, but people have and do regularly complain for less, that is a fact. Guess they are not British according to you :p

What if I went back to ASDA with a half eaten box of chocolates, saying the strawberry ones do not comply with my Jedi religion as they are disgusting, I'm offended and I demand that you play along with my make believe Jedi fantasy by redeeming my half eaten box of chocolates.

Are you incapable of comprehending the difference between ordering a VEGTARIAN pasty and receiving one filled with meat, to that of your ridiculous irrelevant chocolate scenario.

If you need a comparison to help you understand, it would be like ordering a "nut free" box of chocolates only to go home to find out the chocolates are full of nuts. What ever your reasoning for not wanting nuts whether it be due to allergies or simply you do not like them, you have every right as a customer to complain and you should. You are not forcing anyone to adhere to your beliefs, simply you haven't received what was promised.

Jees

I'm done with you after that last comparison, not worth the effort.

Good night sweet prince.
 
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I think Castiel proposed that a random journalist picked up the story and the DM has just rerun it.


Actually this halal thing is a brilliant concept compared to what Christianity does. Make your followers do some odd food thing like only eat sky pixie bread, as it's a religion that spreads by conquering then each new country will have to start making sky pixie bread to cater for the influx. In terms of economics it makes sense just to cater for one market so now everyone just makes sky pixie bread.
Without having to lift a finger, this one idea subverts an entire market into a muslim way of thinking. It's genius :)

I find it funny how you just don't realise that your attitude and constant references to "sky pixies" completely undermines the validity of your "opinions" on such matters.

It's like you're a parody of an anti-theist or something. Keep it up, it's amusing to watch you dig yourself in to holes regularly.
 
Isn't British culture accumulative of many other cultures?
Ones that want to be here yes, it's historically an open culture that adapts to change

Middle Eastern Islamic countries are exactly the opposite, nothing has changed for 2000 years and when they arrive in other countries, muslims appear to want to revert those countries backwards 2000 years in order to suit themselves

Does that not seem like taking the pee to you?

How do any of the above affect you
Somebody out there is living in a 70% muslim neighbourhood, I'd imagine they woul rather swap that for a culture that they can identify with. Exotic is nice, but only on holiday.

most of the stuff you mention is implemented by Muslims for Muslims.
Like I said, muslims just want everything to fit around them. What is the point in leaving their country which they presumably hated as they left it, only to create the same thing again in another country like Britain which has a radically more liberal outlook.

Just stay in the muslim country, make it super duper extreme turbo muslim, cut the clits off all the girls, cover them up and marry them off at eight and never let them leave the house, behead anyone who even thinks about saying bad things about the sky pixie, cut the hand off anyone selling dodgy pasties, burn all the misled Christians alive.
Decide everything based on what the sky pixie would have done, appoint the most batpoo insane religious cleric you can find to run the country into the ground and then start making nuclear weapons.

Dammit dude, that's the most awesome muslim country ever. Hardcore Islam, sounds great to me, just do it. Like our cheeky British muslim brothers always say, "Freedom can go to hell, Islam will dominate the world"


You seem to want everyone to be like you
People can be whoever they want to be so long as they have a country to do it in, it's a bit rude to go to another country and tell them they suck and they should be more like you.


It is, but people have and do regularly complain for less, that is a fact. Guess they are not British according to you :p

It's definitely British to complain but do nothing about it, yes.
Don't make a fuss, stiff upper lip

If you need a comparison to help you understand, it would be like ordering a "nut free" box of chocolates only to go home to find out the chocolates are full of nuts.

That's only valid if Jedis can't eat nuts and the jedi religion is the reason for that prohibition.

I'm offended that you don't know that Jedis actually can eat nuts, it's only strawberry chocolates we can't eat, that's just lazy and ignorant of you for not researching my religion.
Because I'm the customer you have to go along with my religion, because having a made up religion takes precedence over sanity and common sense.
In fact every time my religion is offended, you have to jump because I'm the customer with a make believe friend and I'm a special *********.
 
I find it funny how you just don't realise that your attitude and constant references to "sky pixies" completely undermines the validity of your "opinions" on such matters.

It's like you're a parody of an anti-theist or something. Keep it up, it's amusing to watch you dig yourself in to holes regularly.
Oh god, you are so right, I completely don't realise what I'm saying :eek:

And those holes I dig, man I never even realised what I was doing. Suddenly right there in front of me was this huge hole, and I was like, where the frack did that come from??? :eek: :confused:

Thank god you came along to point all this out to me, phew eh? That was a close one. Cheers dude ;)
Can I just say how awesome your post made you look compared to mine, I mean, I could literally taste your conceit :cool:

Amazeballs









muslims, taking themselves waaaaaay too seriously since 570AD

*pffft*
 
Zebedee is a bit of a role model for me, it's true.
& where did I say you were muslim?

This is a pretty long thread for a cheese pasty drama, I thought mods would close stuff that went this far off the (non) topic? :confused:
 
Surely British culture is in fact one of freedoms and the choice to do what you like or is it simply freedom for you and not others? You seem to want everyone to be like you, but unfortunately the world doesn't work like that and hopefully I will be dead before that does happen ;)

Ironically, the bit in bold fits [many] Muslims more than bitslice. Does Islamic or non-islamic culture encourage dress codes the most (i.e wanting everyone to be the same)? Does Islamic or non-islamic culture demand special loop holes to accommodate their irrational life rules the most (i.e. freedom for you but not for others)?

I couldn't care less what people want to believe and how many sacrifices they want to make to continue believing it (as long as it doesn't affect others) but to try and imply bitslice is somehow more closed-minded than many of the followers of Islam is demonstrably false.
 
Troll? Or genuinely so stupid you can't see he is taking the mickey?

I did wonder but guess I'm Stupid :-(

I was also wrong in the way I responded to the poster so my apologies to them.

are you a Muslim? do you know every other faith in and out? have you memorised the bible?

if not someone could claim you are ignorant because they know nothing about some fantasy book labelled as fiction that you have absolutely no interest in it.

why do you assume with your arrogance everyone should know everything about muslims? is it because being a muslim makes you superior ?

I don't assume anything. No-one needs to know the ins and outs of Islam or any other religion or subject but that doesn't mean people shouldn't try to know about something before making a comment about it. Nothing about me being superior but perhaps I am a bit arrogant to assume that a person who is a member of a computing forum and can clearly use technology might be able to perhaps use the internet (Wikipedia would work) to do some research.

Its also irritating when people take any reason to bash religion and Islam. Come on...sky pixies and fairy tale insults just because of this story?
 
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People actually know lots about Islam and generally reference most topics before commenting, like I happened to know that as this kid didn't knowingly eat non halal meat then he wasn't making a choice therefore he wasn't sinning etc.

It's actually Islam that has killed many British people's respect for people's personal beliefs, I've been slightly deferential in the past only to see the same sense of irritating entitlement in return.
I'm a bit sick of hearing about what some people believe and their expectation that not only is their idea correct but that it deserves more attention than Christianity, which our culture more closely aligns too.

Then we see Islam totally disrespecting other cultures beliefs by just killing all the people involved. The culture that surrounds it is consistently self absorbed and selfish.

Then there is the view that someone's magic book entitles them to respect, when practically it's no more significant than My Big Book of Pooh Bear stories. You go eat ritually slaughtered meat and I'll eat lots of honey, we will see who gets into heaven first.

It's unfortunate for Islam that it is almost exactly like Evangelical Christianity, which people tend to dislike more than mormons and scientologists.
 
Its also irritating when people take any reason to bash religion and Islam. Come on...sky pixies and fairy tale insults just because of this story?

I agree, I'm not religious by any stretch - but that doesn't mean I don't have a basic respect for someone's faith and beliefs.


It's a nonsense story, and the DM are **** stirring as usual.
 
Yes I agree to an extent but also need to stress the difference between what Muslims do and what the teachings of Islam state.

That's nothing to do with me being Muslim but I think its important to differentiate. Personally I think this is a non-story and its happened to me before. I've just given it to a friend and carried on with my life. No biggie.
 
Personally I think this is a non-story and its happened to me before. I've just given it to a friend and carried on with my life. No biggie.


As would a lot of people I would assume, but some people would complain about this sort of thing whether they be Muslim, Vegan, Celiac, Vegetarian et al.


There seems to be a feeling that Muslims do this all the time, demand all these things for their religion etc etc. But where do people hear about things like this? By and large from rags like the DM with nothing better to do, they see that stories like this get peoples back's up so they continue to print them...
 
There seems to be a feeling that Muslims do this all the time, demand all these things for their religion etc etc. But where do people hear about things like this? By and large from rags like the DM with nothing better to do, they see that stories like this get peoples back's up so they continue to print them...

A few years ago there was a right "scene" at the place I used to work, some of the muslim workers cleared out a corner of the office and constructed a prayer corner from office partitions without getting any permission, an area which was used for storing stuff turned into a prayer corner overnight.

Trouble started when people wanted the storage area back, but the company just turned a blind eye and didn't dare get involved with trying to take it down, someone even left a bacon roll in there for a giggle (which was hilarious) but the situation was totally crass..
 
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