.....why? o.O
Baby Crushed to Death at Airport
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.....why? o.O
I am struggling to understand how the baby was crushed, when it was in a baby carrier though (which are pretty robust!). Obviously baby's are exceptionally fragile just wondering how on earth this happened in this manner.
So utterly distressing
McGray> Was thinking the same thing. I'm guessing she moved away, but unless there is follow up news, we will never know.
The BBC write up mentions the baby got tangled in the rollers.
The BBC write up mentions the baby got tangled in the rollers.
Later reports detail that she stepped onto the belt with her baby in a sling trying to retrieve a pram (Not sure if this is accurate), and then it turned on, she fell and the baby got crushed in a 10cm gap between conveyors.
It's honestly not even an accident you can imagine happening
It's honestly not even an accident you can imagine happening
Not us mere mortals. Some OCUK members have already foreseen every possible eventuality in every situation though, so have it covered.
In before someone says but she climbed on a conveyor belt how is that going end well. I agree.
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Or perhaps very tired and stressed and not thinking clearly?
Come on, seriously people, who in their right mind would put a baby on an airport conveyor belt. What a stupid mindless thing to do. You would have to be a complete moron. I am sure you have all seen these at the airports with stickers all over them stating how dangerous they are and not to sit on them. I am sure we have seen how quickly these start up and how quickly they move. The mind boggles. Feel sorry for all the people that got caught up in this mess. Can you imagine the nightmares this is going to give the airport/ambulance workers involved.... yuk!
Poor kid. Daft mare.
From the DM article it states:
"An emergency stop button was visible on both sides of the belt, while a sign warned there was a 'risk of entrapment' and showed a picture of a hand reaching out towards cogs."
Was this not enough for the stupid woman to not think either 'this isn't somewhere I should put my baby' or 'this isn't something I should climb on whilst carrying my child in a sling' (depending on whatever the circumstances were)?!
She's ignored warning signs as in the example earlier regarding the guy who killed his son by speeding and was therefore prosecuted for his death, so thus it does seriously raise the question of whether she is negligent and therefore criminally responsible for the child's death.
I'd argue she was negligent by failing to exercise care that any reasonable person would take i.e. climbing on to machinery whilst carrying an unsecured infant. Hell most mothers I know wouldn't climb over a permanently static object whilst carrying a child. My sister wont climb up our doorstep without passing my nephew to someone in the house first incase she trips and drops him.
To those saying that the death of her child is punishment enough, that's not how the law works. It may rightly be taken in to consideration in sentencing but not in judgement.
From the DM article it states:
"An emergency stop button was visible on both sides of the belt, while a sign warned there was a 'risk of entrapment' and showed a picture of a hand reaching out towards cogs."
Was this not enough for the stupid woman to not think either 'this isn't somewhere I should put my baby' or 'this isn't something I should climb on whilst carrying my child in a sling' (depending on whatever the circumstances were)?!
She's ignored warning signs as in the example earlier regarding the guy who killed his son by speeding and was therefore prosecuted for his death, so thus it does seriously raise the question of whether she is negligent and therefore criminally responsible for the child's death.
I'd argue she was negligent by failing to exercise care that any reasonable person would take i.e. climbing on to machinery whilst carrying an unsecured infant. Hell most mothers I know wouldn't climb over a permanently static object whilst carrying a child. My sister wont climb up our doorstep without passing my nephew to someone in the house first incase she trips and drops him.
To those saying that the death of her child is punishment enough, that's not how the law works. It may rightly be taken in to consideration in sentencing but not in judgement.
Good god, how awful - poor, poor woman and family.Later reports detail that she stepped onto the belt with her baby in a sling trying to retrieve a pram (Not sure if this is accurate), and then it turned on, she fell and the baby got crushed in a 10cm gap between conveyors.
It's honestly not even an accident you can imagine happening
Having recently gone through an aiport with 2 kids and a baby, I can say that its not particularily easy to have all your wits about you. You are tired after the flight, trying to keep an eye on the kids as well as look out for your luggage / belongings whilst everyone else is giving it the usual elbows.
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she doesn't have to imagine it shes actually experiencing it.. You should get a job as a magistrate seems like you have the right attitude for it.. ?
Would it really.
Do you think the airport didn't provide enough information, warning signs where appropriate and suitable emergency cutoffs?
Closest personal experience I have of people trying to sue a prepared organisation over accidents is related to bike trails. All they need to do is cover themselves by making the hazards suitably clear and have required safety measures in place. Last one I recall a businessman paralysed himself going over the handlebars and had a go, sure it sucks for him but he didn't have a chance of a claim.
Just having signs up around mechanical machinery that can seriously injure or kill people isn't viewed as being acceptable by the HSE. Customers shouldn't have access to it, or there should be some form of guard or change in design to remove the risk.
Small children might not understand warning signs
Yup. Easy for posters on here to judge others, and not be thinking it through.
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Just having signs up around mechanical machinery that can seriously injure or kill people isn't viewed as being acceptable by the HSE. Customers shouldn't have access to it, or there should be some form of guard or change in design to remove the risk.
Small children might not understand warning signs
At the very least there should be an audible alarm that sounds a few seconds before the conveyor starts to move, this is pretty much standard practice on moving machinery. My heart goes out to the poor mites family.
I can't believe the posters that come in here, and seemingly all they care about is blaming someone for the death, can that not happen at a later time? Peoples thoughts should surely be with the poor baby that has died in terrible way, and the family that have to live with this horrid torment for the rest of their lives. I truly am embarrassed by the reactions in this thread, being GD doesn't excuse this stuff at all.
RIP little baby, what a terrible tragedy this is.
RIP little baby, what a terrible tragedy this is.
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But if you were Robgum you would:
1) Not go on holiday so you don't make a mistake
2) when arriving at the airport all tired you would make your family have a rest for 1 hour so you can then have your wits about you before heading off to the carousel.
3) However, look at the queue at passport control, the kids could be pushed or stepped on. Tell you what, back to the lounge until the queue has gone down in 6 hours.
and so on ..................
4) That coach driver looks a bit dodgy, I think I'll get a taxi
5) Oh no, he's having a fag so better not put my family in danger
6) I'll hire my own car
and so on .....................
7) Excuse me Manager, is there any chance you can put a non slip carpet around the pool so my kids don't slip
and so on ......................
I wish I was Robgum
I'm taking a different tack on this (hey, I'm an Engineer)
Design error in the conveyor belt in my opinion.
If it's possible a child can either be placed onto it or by it's own means climb onto it, then the conveyor belt should be designed to stop before injury occurs.
Every industrial machine has multiple safety guards to prevent injury to trained operatives, yet this conveyor belt was open to anybody to use in less than ideal conditions, by a tired and jet lagged public (some of whom may have never even seen a conveyor belt before, never mind one that autostarts).
Some kind of IR heat detector fitted would have saved that child's life.
Mothermachine (and others) - are beneath contempt IMO
Design error in the conveyor belt in my opinion.
If it's possible a child can either be placed onto it or by it's own means climb onto it, then the conveyor belt should be designed to stop before injury occurs.
Every industrial machine has multiple safety guards to prevent injury to trained operatives, yet this conveyor belt was open to anybody to use in less than ideal conditions, by a tired and jet lagged public (some of whom may have never even seen a conveyor belt before, never mind one that autostarts).
Some kind of IR heat detector fitted would have saved that child's life.
Mothermachine (and others) - are beneath contempt IMO