Final Spec.. hows it looking?

No I meant in the standard Prodigy, the ITX one. I'm not sure about the Prodigy M.

I've seen builds in the ITX with the rad up top so you only lose your optical drive bay. Or in the front and then you lose all your bays.
 
No I meant in the standard Prodigy, the ITX one. I'm not sure about the Prodigy M.

I've seen builds in the ITX with the rad up top so you only lose your optical drive bay. Or in the front and then you lose all your bays.

Its looking like a prodigy m now to be honest, i like the fact i can have more options :) and itll fit all my hdds, im not bothered about Optical drives at all, i'll use an external :)
 
The M is a nice case, you lose a PCI slot with the H100 in it. So a 3 slot GPU would be a bad idea.

And yes I'm the same I really only use the optical drive to install a new version of Windows, after that I don't touch it again.

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Hmm interesting idea. Could work well, especially on the Prodigy/M because it has the handles up there anyway. Could probably even manage a push pull with 1 row fans inside, and rad and 2nd fans outside? Would you do exhaust or intake blowing warm air towards the GPU?

Defo have to do a build log ;)
 
Hmm interesting idea. Could work well, especially on the Prodigy/M because it has the handles up there anyway. Could probably even manage a push pull with 1 row fans inside, and rad and 2nd fans outside? Would you do exhaust or intake blowing warm air towards the GPU?

Defo have to do a build log ;)

Im not sure i was going to ask ocuk on this, as im new to watercooling, im good at designing, but watercooling and airflow not the best, ideally i want to be pulling hot air out the top naturally, so do i mount the rad and fans on outside, then having a second set of fans inside also so 4 fans on the rad (in respect) all pushing air out of the case...
 
Yep 2 fans each side of the rad is the basic gist of it. I don't think push pull is strictly necessary but I believe it can reduce temps by a couple of degrees sometimes.

With regard to intake vs exhaust, logically as you say you want hot air being exhausted out the top, but logic doesn't always seem to apply with case cooling.

The generally recommended thing is to try it both ways and see, and then report back ;)

But yeah I'd make a new post in the cooling section like you say.

Wonder when the Prodigy M will be in stock.
 
Yep 2 fans each side of the rad is the basic gist of it. I don't think push pull is strictly necessary but I believe it can reduce temps by a couple of degrees sometimes.

With regard to intake vs exhaust, logically as you say you want hot air being exhausted out the top, but logic doesn't always seem to apply with case cooling.

The generally recommended thing is to try it both ways and see, and then report back ;)

But yeah I'd make a new post in the cooling section like you say.

Wonder when the Prodigy M will be in stock.

Spoke to OCUK within 2 weeks they're saying
 
I'm loving the gold bitfenix hows this -
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I don't see any room for improvement here but possibly the psu? u sure you want 550w? Maybe you can pay a short amount more for a higher psu and make ur system 'future upgradable'

It's not a big factor as i said there isnt any major room for improvements, thats a good setup
 
I don't see any room for improvement here but possibly the psu? u sure you want 550w? Maybe you can pay a short amount more for a higher psu and make ur system 'future upgradable'

It's not a big factor as i said there isnt any major room for improvements, thats a good setup

anything you'd recommend psu wise?
 
Again it's just a suggestion but personally i'd go for at least 700 or more, something like

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-042-SS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=2383

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-097-CS (the one i upgraded to earlier this year)
They are a fair bit more expensive than what you originally have but lets say in the future you have the urge to upgrade and need more juice for your system it just guarantees you wont have to spend money on another PSU.
Im sure you get my drift, the rest is up to you. 850 might be on the high side so a nice 700-750 would be decent, especially if you overclock right?
 
That Seasonic is an excellent PSU and a cracking deal on this week only.

But the only reason you need that much juice really is if you're running SLI/Xfire at the moment. Which you can't do on an ITX system.

Obviously you never know how much power a future single GPU is going to draw, but they are generally getting more energy efficient at the moment. The Titan is one of the most energy efficient cards available I believe. How are the new AMD's that have just been announced for energy efficiency, as that's never been AMD's strong point?

At the moment there is a fundamental limit on how much power a card can draw through the PCIe power connectors and motherboard. So you'd potentially have to purchase molex to whatever new pinout they create to power any hungrier cards that are created in the future anyway.

That's not to say it's a bad idea. It is a cracking PSU and would power a new SLI/Xfire rig if the mood ever took you. You could swap to a Prodigy M and just buy a new mATX motherboard and 2nd GPU in the future if the PSU was already capable though I think it does only come with two 6+2 pin PCIe connectors :)
 
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That Seasonic is an excellent PSU and a cracking deal on this week only.

But the only reason you need that much juice really is if you're running SLI/Xfire at the moment. Which you can't do on an ITX system.

Obviously you never know how much power a future single GPU is going to draw, but they are generally getting more energy efficient at the moment. The Titan is one of the most energy efficient cards available I believe. How are the new AMD's that have just been announced for energy efficiency, as that's never been AMD's strong point?

At the moment there is a fundamental limit on how much power a card can draw through the PCIe power connectors and motherboard. So you'd potentially have to purchase molex to whatever new pinout they create to power any hungrier cards that are created in the future anyway.

That's not to say it's a bad idea. It is a cracking PSU and would power a new SLI/Xfire rig if the mood ever took you. You could swap to a Prodigy M and just buy a new mATX motherboard and 2nd GPU in the future if the PSU was already capable though I think it does only come with two 6+2 pin PCIe connectors :)

Im really going off the ideas of the bitfenix now, due to a few issues card limitations, and space really, i looked at the mATX but with the radiator being into theres not much room for the 680 gtx which is the card i ideally want.

now i looked at thew new phenom but that has card spacing issues of cards over 12" so i looked at the 350d.. whilst its a nice case, i think i dare say i might go for full size and look at the carbide, i low how clean you can make it look..
 
I love the 350D seen some clean builds in that. Not a big fan of full ATX anymore just can't see the need for a PC to take up that much space, but each to their own. The 350D size wise is probably near a normal ATX case size due to it's allowances for water coolers.

Is it worth bumping the PSU to give you SLI capability for the future if you're going full ATX and an SLI board?

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I love the 350D seen some clean builds in that.

Is it worth bumping the PSU to give you SLI capability for the future if you're going full ATX and an SLI board?

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ive changed board to this now:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-563-AS

Yes i might bump up the psu slightly..
 
No, just pointing out that mATX is still an option if you want to save a little space, you can probably get everything you need from a smaller board? If you really want the carbide the you might as well get the ATX version as they're the same price but does your PC need to be that big, just thinking that you started off at ITX lol? :)

With that board you lose the 3rd PCIe x16 slot, 2 PCIe x1 slots and a few USB3's from the back (still has 4) otherwise it appears to be pretty much exactly the same.

That in the 350D could work very well?

Couple of examples:

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