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Corki still wasn't seeing play after the mana costs, its solely because of the Triforce buff.
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Corki still wasn't seeing play after the mana costs, its solely because of the Triforce buff.
With most mid lane Assassins (Ahri, Kassa etc), you'll find that especially during low level of ranked games, you really need to be able to carry. That means you need kills. Kassa, Ahri especially are great at roaming and you should be ganking most lanes at every available opportunity and warding so you know where the enemy jungler is.
Minion farm for middle isn't _as_ important as say ADC or top (although still important), but providing that you roam and kill lots you can subsidies going behind a few minion kills, as the gold you'll get for killing the bot lane and jungler should subsidise.
With Ahri as I'm sure you've worked out, she's all about burst damage, spirit rush into the enemy, charm, then Q, W, auto attacks and the spirit rush to get outta there - providing you have good AP damage, most champions will fall to that combination - especially after a few kills early on due to roaming.
With regards to wards, ward next to the enemy wraiths to pick up ganking from there, if bottom are warding properly you should see the majority of ganking from bottom attempts (and also pick the enemy jungler up) and same goes for Baron pit. I like to stick a pink ward in at the red buff / blue buff, so I know exactly where the jungler is and can plan on taking him out. Generally the jungler just roams around on specific patterns looking to gank most lanes - these are easy to pick up after failed ganks they'll still just roam around looking to life steal rather than going back. Lay traps for the jungle and you should pick them up no troubles
Cheers. I'm still not very good at warding atm and the games I'm in are obviously extremely hit n miss as far as the team warding goes since I'm still not level 30. I do sometimes grab a ward or 2 to put in the river bushes but not often enough and not pink wards.
I haven't really been roaming enough either (partly cos of the above, partly cos I usually can't pressure the mid lane enough and partly cos I just don't know when to take advantage yet). I have managed to pick up some kills by doing it at least.
I do sometimes get the combo a little wrong. Mostly it would be trying to Charm while too far away so it misses or throwing out the Orb and Spirit Rushing to a position where the return misses or something similar. My biggest problem is definitely the DFG though since I can never seem to get that right >< Do item casts need any sort of animation or can you do them at any time so long as you aren't CC'd? If not then its purely because I'm trying to do it out of range and really need to learn the DFG range better ><
If you fancy some Duo Q then grab me ingame. ZC Squishy. I am fairly new to ranked but placed S4 and jumped to S2 after my first promo series. Found some crap groups and lost first 2 straight games. Only around 20 games played total ranked so still learning but I can pull my own weight usually. We have a 512 slot TS server running for the clan anyone can join.
I mainly play Ahri, Akali and Udyr in mid and top lanes. Just getting to grips with Varus ADC too but will stick to non-ranked for now with him
Green wards will do, unless you planting in a place where wards are usually planted. For example - baron. You should never Baron without a pink ward never as a general rule, a green ward won't show other pink wards around. That's the main difference.
You'll find that when playing with lesser players that they won't generally ward too much - A lot of them just leave it up to support to ward which isn't the right thing to do. Yes supports ward, but only for the ADC within the initial phase before brancing out when the lane phase finishes.
For example, taking Ahri mid, you should start out with a crystaline flask, sight ward + health pot. That's certainly what xPeke starts with. It gives you a bit of sustain (Ahri is very mana heavy) but allows vision for the early ganks by whomever is jung. It's improtant that you find the location of the jung as soon as you can and place the ward where they will be travelling - you don't want to push your lane and get caught with the jung coming up behind you for example. Especially not until Ahri/Kass gets their ulti.
So, roaming really depends on two things - vision of where you're roaming too and enemy position. There's not much value in roaming to bot lane if bot lane are under their own tower for example. There's also no real value in roaming when it's heavily warded unless bot lane are pushed up all the way. Make sure you roam where you can see, you don't want to facecheck the enemy jungler, or the mid laner and the jung. When on red team, I went to gank down behind the dragon pit (so on the land) and put a ward behind the dragon in the bushes. I like to see where the enemy jung especially is roaming around. As a mid laner you should have a bit of money spare, as you should be getting kills + decent farm.
Item casts are generally instant, it'll take soem getting used too. Some items require you to really use smart cast as well - get into that habit as it's a good one to have.
Don't worry to much about pressure on mid lane, certainly don't worry yet about pushing the mid lane. Generally as Ahri, her Q will farm (make sure you get the creeps early so theyare in a line already, but also get her W of on the enemy champ regualarly. You want to harass the midlane without leaving your self open if you can, this allows you to use 'plays'. Ahri has a huge damage burst especially around the combo and her spirit rush allows you to get out of trouble as well. Once you hit level 6 you should be looking at bursting and harass and killing. Even if y ou don't get the kill, you'll send the enemy mid back to base allowing you to free farm (with the appropiate vision up).
What order are you maxing Ahri's abilities btw? Xpeke starts with W first, then Q, then W, then E, then usually adds another to Q then the rest to W, then Q and finish off with maxing E last. Obviously adding a point to R everytime you can
Check out xPeke's vids on youtube, he explains things as well (though usually over voice chat to whomever he is playing with) but it allows you to see how he plays Ahri and he's very very good at her obviously! He also brings good habits onto you, like timing flash of the other midlaner for example.
I'm no expert, I don't even play Ahri too much (though I am learning her!), I just watch a lot of LoL videos and try to learn as much as I can through others. Anything which anyone disagrees on, feel free to point it out to me, happy to learn from others who are more experienced
If at all, I usually play support in ranked and i'll be the only person on my team to buy wards unless we have a lee sin jungle so he can jump around with them. Which means random wards all over the map.
Yet they will moan that there is no wards in top lane when I'm support in bot lane at the 7min mark
I don't enjoy playing support, but when I do and someone moans about wards - I'll tell them straight - I have a ruby sightstone, those three wards are down. You want more wards? You buy some. It's not just the supports jobs to ward, it's everyones.
Usually falls on deaf ears of course.
If you fancy some Duo Q then grab me ingame. ZC Squishy. I am fairly new to ranked but placed S4 and jumped to S2 after my first promo series. Found some crap groups and lost first 2 straight games. Only around 20 games played total ranked so still learning but I can pull my own weight usually. We have a 512 slot TS server running for the clan anyone can join.
I mainly play Ahri, Akali and Udyr in mid and top lanes. Just getting to grips with Varus ADC too but will stick to non-ranked for now with him
Ok will add, i can jungle if you're going to mid generally safer than taking up two lanes
Sure, but its better for the team if the support can buy the wards as the others can get better items, but I always buy my own wards anyway.
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Servers has been laggy as hell lately. Ruining my ranked games a lot. 
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So I've recently quit wow as it consumes way too much time and I've recently started uni. Would you guys recommend starting league of legends never having played it before?
- I love WoW PVP, but the haven't got time for the rest of the game any more so I un-subbed. It also annoys me how every-time a new patch comes out all the gear I've worked for becomes redundant.
- Looking for a casual replacement for a fantasy PVP style game
- Can only spare a few hours a week tops
Would you recommend LoL in 2013?
- I love WoW PVP, but the haven't got time for the rest of the game any more so I un-subbed. It also annoys me how every-time a new patch comes out all the gear I've worked for becomes redundant.
- Looking for a casual replacement for a fantasy PVP style game
- Can only spare a few hours a week tops
Would you recommend LoL in 2013?
All, if you are around level 25+ pls add me, ingame name is theslinkie.
I am getting sick of trying to hit 30 playing with randoms. I've had 3 games today.
1.) 1 afk + 1 lee sin feeding intentionally
2.) 2 afk plus a tryn jungle who died to wraiths and didn't kill anyone all game
3.) A game we won (!!!!) I played support (as I did in the other 2 games since no one else would) with a lux who had never played the champ before and everytime I pulled and stunned as blitz she just ran away, no ults, no attacks... no communication.
It'd be nice to play with someone who has some idea of what they are doing and who won't afk at level 3.
I am getting sick of trying to hit 30 playing with randoms. I've had 3 games today.
1.) 1 afk + 1 lee sin feeding intentionally
2.) 2 afk plus a tryn jungle who died to wraiths and didn't kill anyone all game
3.) A game we won (!!!!) I played support (as I did in the other 2 games since no one else would) with a lux who had never played the champ before and everytime I pulled and stunned as blitz she just ran away, no ults, no attacks... no communication.
It'd be nice to play with someone who has some idea of what they are doing and who won't afk at level 3.
Damn it, I'm out
You might be better off looking at Smite as it's closer to WoWs pvp then LoL is
I've typically been starting off with Dorans Ring + 2 pots which has been working out reasonably well for me. Only time I've really switched that up was Cloth Armour + Pots for when I was against Zed.
For her abilities I've been starting out Q, E, W, then maxing out Q first, W second, E last (with the obvious points in R). I did originally leave W till last and max E first but after looking at a guide on mobafire which did W second I fully understand why as the base damage is much higher and the AP ratio is staggering compared to E which makes it far more likely to kill a champ in a single quick burst while you wouldn't really benefit from the extra duration of the Charm.
If I had to guess why you'd max W first and put a few points into Q, is it really down to knowing how many points + AP you need to 1 shot minions with the Q? Or is it purely for the maximum amount of burst damage to champs?
I will have to think about warding a little more but I have a feeling it'll result in a lot of wasted gold if I put them any further than the river/wraiths just because I won't be able to capitalise on anything. I do see there importance though. Just yesterday I was losing mid so after respawning went bot to try and gank and the Lux mid was sat around the corner from 3 of us in a bush spotted by our ward. Charm into the full dive and Instakill + bounty for me.
Anyone in a game at the moment? Mine has been "attempting to connect" for the last 10 mins but my internet is obviously working. Has EUW gone down? How long should I leave it? We were about to win
Yeah they went down last night not sure if there back up yet, after all it is EU and could be down for days
A dorans ring isn't a bad start, don't get me wrong. The passive on that gets you a bit of sustain, though you really need two rings for Ahri to really sustain + pots of course. The flask gives you sustain rolled into one. I guess it's the beauty of LoL isn't it? So many different ways to go;
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It depends on how you play really, in terms of levelling your skills up. If you're more passive your Q should be levelled - but with Ahri you need to harass and you'll struggle to harass with Q. Ahri's W prioritises enemy champions first meaning it's a good harass tool and puts pressure on your opponent allowing you to farm. It's more for bursting champions down. With Ahri you want to rack up a few kills early on, this allows you to roam without feeling pressure to farm and allows you to keep on racking up kills and therefore snowball.
Ahri does have good lane clear, especially with her Q. But it's a skill which can be easily dodged - ideally with Ahri yo uwant to land the tip of her Q on the champion which then deals damage twice (both going out and coming in) in one hit. It's an easyish skill to dodge. The W providing they are in range, they can't dodge really, which makes it my preferred skill. It's also worth noting that you are better off not taking any skills first level until you know what you are up against - What character, what opening items they have etc; It allows you to put in a quick plan of whether this is someone which you can harass (so get W), or if you will need a strong lane phase (so get Q) and then max either you get first.
Warding is good, the benefit you have as a mid laner is that you get a fre lane, plus roaming potential, plus wraiths / wolves when needed. This means your income should be very good allowing you to spend 75 on one ward (so minimum 2 depending on how often you head back - 150 total) which if you factor in 5 returns is 750. That might sound like a lot of gold over the course of a game, but if you get a kill because of you warding, then you make a lot of that back. Once the laning phase is over then you need to change the positions of your warding, dependant on what's happened during the gae - which towers are gone, enemy jungler routes, how much pressure etc etc.
Get on youtube (I'd link you but I'm at work sorry!) and search for Xpeke Ahri mid and you'll get a good idea of how the pros do it
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