GIBBO's EXPLANATION OF THE NEW AMD LINEUP - WHICH ONE SHOULD I BUY?

FuF · 8 Oct 2013 at 17:55

Good work, Gibbo!

It is a bit of a shame that the new line of cards is quite average in their performance. I hoped these cards will blow nVidia out of the water and we'll have some shake up of the prices.. Or am I missing something and there will be more AMD cards to come out ?

Edit: Doh missed the other two cards to come that will be at the high end of the spectrum. I do find AMD card hierarchy very confusing.. I guess that's why I tend to stick to nVidia

Matson · 8 Oct 2013 at 18:06

Im guessing since the NDA for the 290 is the 15th they will be released that day too if this lineup is anything to go by.

Steampunk · 8 Oct 2013 at 18:15

Lethagized said:
Just out of interest, but how do you go about getting the True Audio sound from HDMI to a pair of normal headphones? Is there an adaptor available? Don't ask me to plug them into my TV

TrueAudio is not a soundcard or a sound delivery system, is it a DSP for processing sounds in a game's 3D soundscape. It is a built in hardware sound engine that can tie the game and the graphics tightly to the sound calculations.

You still need a soundcard on onboard sound to get the actual sound from the game to a pair of headphones.

humbug · 8 Oct 2013 at 18:38

FuF said:
Good work, Gibbo!

It is a bit of a shame that the new line of cards is quite average in their performance. I hoped these cards will blow nVidia out of the water and we'll have some shake up of the prices.. Or am I missing something and there will be more AMD cards to come out ?

Edit: Doh missed the other two cards to come that will be at the high end of the spectrum. I do fine AMD card hierarchy very confusing.. I guess that's why I tend to stick to nVidia

Yes, the R9 280X is a mid range card, next up is the R9 290X which is <GTX Titan performance

FoxEye · 8 Oct 2013 at 19:27

humbug said:
Yes, the R9 280X is a mid range card, next up is the R9 290X which is <GTX Titan performance

[sarcasm]

The R290 and R290X are mid-range too, because the 7990 is high-end

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How can you define a £250 - £300 card as mid-range, and why do people keep saying this each generation?

That's only £50 short of a PS4.

240,250 = low end
260,270 = mid range
280,290 = high end
7990, lolTitan = gold-plated iPhone land

=XDC=FluphyBunny · 8 Oct 2013 at 19:52

Steampunk said:
TrueAudio is not a soundcard or a sound delivery system, is it a DSP for processing sounds in a game's 3D soundscape. It is a built in hardware sound engine that can tie the game and the graphics tightly to the sound calculations.

You still need a soundcard on onboard sound to get the actual sound from the game to a pair of headphones.

And its only in the 270x, 290 and 290x. The other cards are just re-brands...... actually 7970>8970>280x ..... is that a record?

FoxEye · 8 Oct 2013 at 20:05

=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
And its only in the 270x, 290 and 290x. The other cards are just re-brands...... actually 7970>8970>280x ..... is that a record?

260X, 290(X). It was also in the 7790, just disabled in the driver, and is going to be enabled by a future driver update for that card, apparently.

The 7790 is newer than the other 7xxx cards, so it makes sense that it shares some features of the upcoming Hawaii cards.

N19h7m4r3 · 8 Oct 2013 at 20:37

So Gibbo! You chaps don't happen to have plugged in a 280 into a Mac Pro to see if OSX has drivers for them like it does for the 7950/70?

almighty15 · 8 Oct 2013 at 20:39

I don't get some people...... It's been known for weeks now that the 280X is nothing more then a re-baged 7970 but AT A LOWER PRICE POINT and people are disappointed with it?

The 280X makes the GTX770 look like the over priced waste of silicon it is...

Kaapstad · 8 Oct 2013 at 20:44

almighty15 said:
I don't get some people...... It's been known for weeks now that the 280X is nothing more then a re-baged 7970 but AT A LOWER PRICE POINT and people are disappointed with it?

The 280X makes the GTX770 look like the over priced waste of silicon it is...

The 280X does not seem to overclock as well as a HD 7970 which means a GTX 770 will get the better of it.

LtMatt · 8 Oct 2013 at 20:52

Kaapstad said:
The 280X does not seem to overclock as well as a HD 7970 which means a GTX 770 will get the better of it.

I'll believe it when i see it. In all the bench threads the 770 still sits below the 7970. Even Scotty's 770 with 1.4 volts falls below. Most people won't be able to put 1.4v through a voltage locked card like scotty did with his msi lightning 770.

ToxicTBag · 8 Oct 2013 at 20:54

OOoooooo now that's pretty :eek:

Martini1991 · 8 Oct 2013 at 20:56

Shame about the lack of 7850 performance card.

almighty15 · 8 Oct 2013 at 20:57

Kaapstad said:
The 280X does not seem to overclock as well as a HD 7970 which means a GTX 770 will get the better of it.

I don't think I've seen a review yet that overclocks the 280X with extra voltage, most of them use stock voltages and in that case the 280X hits the same clocks most 7970's do on stock voltage.

Kaapstad · 8 Oct 2013 at 21:01

LtMatt said:
I'll believe it when i see it. In all the bench threads the 770 still sits below the 7970. Even Scotty's 770 with 1.4 volts falls below. Most people won't be able to put 1.4v through a voltage locked card like scotty did with his msi lightning 770.

That's the point, based on what I have seen on overclocking the 280X that would put them below most HD 7970s. Overclocks of around 1150/1700 is not that good and would struggle to beat a stock Matrix Platinum.

ouzodan · 8 Oct 2013 at 21:03

Bit of a noob question but will hd79 series support mantle or is it locked to the new r7/r9 cards?

Im buying one or the other in the morning depending.

Cheers

almighty15 · 8 Oct 2013 at 21:04

ouzodan said:
Bit of a noob question but will hd79 series support mantle or is it locked to the new r7/r9 cards?

Im buying one or the other in the morning depending.

Cheers

Mantle will work fine on all 7000 series GPU's.

LtMatt · 8 Oct 2013 at 21:06

Kaapstad said:
That's the point, based on what I have seen on overclocking the 280X that would put them below most HD 7970s. Overclocks of around 1150/1700 is not that good and would struggle to beat a stock Matrix Platinum.

You need to look at typical 7970 and 7970ghz clocks these websites achieve. They're about the same. They never really push the card that hard and most of them don't bother to add voltage. I predict similar results to your typical 7970ghz.

almighty15 · 8 Oct 2013 at 21:07

LtMatt said:
You need to look at typical 7970 and 7970ghz clocks these websites achieve. They're about the same. They never really push the card that hard and most of them don't bother to add voltage. I predict similar results to your typical 7970ghz.

Exactly, not a single review I've read so far has voltage tweaked the 280X while overclocking....

Zeed · 8 Oct 2013 at 22:05

Guess is should get descent money for my 7950 with water block on it

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