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BAAAADD i7 4770K

would like to see ops settings, pretty sure you will be able to do more then 4.2ghz... maybe i got lucky with the 2 cpu's i bought 1 does 4.7 and other does 4.8ghz around 1.35vcore
 
ALXAndy said:
If a product does not meet my expectations it goes back. End of.

I would have those expectations because I paid for them. So for example, when I bought my first 8 core AMD I wanted 4.2ghz out of it and I got it. Had I not? I'd have sent it back.

OCUK don't feel bad for selling the CPUs 8 pack has turned down and charge a massive premium for those that he has found very capable, so why on earth would you feel bad at all?

I think in the UK people have either very low expectations or, are simply too sheepish when it comes to sticking up for themselves and having expectations.

Haswell chips are really pretty poor. The review samples ALL hit good clocks with half decent temps so Intel were cherry picking themselves. And quelle surprise, they got decent reviews. I doubt very much if an I7 had gone out that wouldn't go over 4.2ghz then it wouldn't have got the reviews.

FFS people stop being so spineless.
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Yup like i said it's a Ocuk thing, they allow it, its there rule so why not use it.
 
I had a 4670K that needed 1.26v just to do 4GHz stable.
My 4770K can do 4.2GHz at 1.15v (maybe less) in the same PC. So it really is a lottery.

I also don't agree entirely with everyone saying Haswell should do 4.2GHz easy at a reasonable voltage. A lot of the Haswell chips probably will, but I don't think they all will.

Of course the other issue with Haswell is the heat. My 4770K is running at 4.3GHz (1.17v) but even watercooled (Custom loop EK Supreme HF block, EK CoolStream XT 240 rad, MCP35X pump) my temps will exceed 60ºC during video encoding and 80ºC when running Prime95 for just a few minutes. Since I don't put it under Prime95 level loads during normal usage it's ok, but still disappointing. Another attribute of Haswell that seems to be a bit of a lottery it seems.
 
wazza300 said:
from what ive seen with benchmarks its roughly 300mhz with each gen

ivy 300mhz over sandy and haswell 300mhz over ivy ect
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It varies depending on what you are doing but the things I've tested and seen it's not quite that much. Check your own Cinebench score of your 2600k at 4.8Ghz and you will see that it's pretty much the same as Haswell at 4.4Ghz, ~850cb.
 
It's not reasonable to keep DSR'ing CPUs just because you got stuck with a turkey of a CPU for overclocking. The CPU is fit for purpose at stock speed, neither Intel or OCUK make any guarantees in relation to a minimum overclock. You pay for the ability to overclock which you have done and got to 4.2Ghz, your not happy with the overclock, well that's too bad, maybe it's your motherboard, your ram, your psu or something else that is holding your overclock back.
 
RHS said:
It's not reasonable to keep DSR'ing CPUs just because you got stuck with a turkey of a CPU for overclocking. The CPU is fit for purpose at stock speed, neither Intel or OCUK make any guarantees in relation to a minimum overclock. You pay for the ability to overclock which you have done and got to 4.2Ghz, your not happy with the overclock, well that's too bad, maybe it's your motherboard, your ram, your psu or something else that is holding your overclock back.
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But DSR has nothing to do with being "fit for purpose". If it wasn't fit for purpose you'd RMA it, not DSR it.
 
If people routinely abuse the DSR then it will be taken away. It was probably bright I to encourage online sales I'v the early days.
 
Hades said:
If people routinely abuse the DSR then it will be taken away. It was probably bright I to encourage online sales I'v the early days.
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Don't be silly. ;) It can't be abused, you can return it for whatever reason you want. (The person who delivered it had an odious smell) It's the law and it won't be repealed any time soon.
 
OP needs to go back to the drawing board and do a lot more reading up on overclocking Haswell. I had to learn how to overclock all over again as it's completely different to every platform i had before. It's not just vcore etc anymore as you also have CPU input voltage, cache voltage etc. You need to understand what each setting does.
 
Well .... Im running at 4.4 at 1.360v hitting mid 70's on an H100 cooler. Im happy for it to be running at 4.4 but the voltages are high compared to those I read on here. I just get BSOD if I go lower..

I dont want to DSR it, I understand what it does to the store etc .. I'm just comparing mine with others on forums etc (not reviews) and it seems pretty bum.
 
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Buckster said:
taken away by who ?

DSR is not set by the retailers
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wam7 said:
Don't be silly. ;) It can't be abused, you can return it for whatever reason you want. (The person who delivered it had an odious smell) It's ththee law and it won't be repealed any time soon.
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I know that. I'm extremely aware of the law having successfully pushed various companies into delivering my rights when they didn't want to. I'm fully aware of the intricacies of regulations like the DSR and consumer credit act. My point was that the DSR was introduced in the early days of online selling to encourage people to use it. That need is no longer there and the retailers don't like it. I can see a time when various companies will petition for its removal based on people abusing the spirit of it.
 
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