Msi 280X and Monitor

[uksoldierboy]

Hiya guys,

Well today i took delivery of my new MSI OC Edition 280X and a DGM 27" monitor.

Initial impressions are the card is that's it "alright".

Don't think i've got the best clocker to be fair, ASIC Reading is 62.1, seems pretty low?

Regardless went ahead and tried a little bit of overclocking,

Set Core volts to 1.25
Core @1200mhz
Set memory volts @1.600
memory @1700mhz

3Dmark 13 crashed on the first test before loading (Driver stopped responding)

Worked my way down and managed to get it to run through 3Dmark @1150/1700
But crashed 5mins into arma 3.

Tried 1140/1700 and all seems well so far, not the worst overclock i know.

Looking around at reviews i'm a little confused as to what bios i should have it on, it's currently on 1, but not sure if it needs to be on 2 or not.

Also on these reviews they mention setting the powerlimit to 120%, but in afterburner i can only get it to +20 and it's maxed.

In regards to the screen i'm loving the extra detail in games.

But i seem to have a dead pixels perhaps (not exactly sure tbh) on the bottom on my screen.

A quick pic:

Do you guys think this would warrant a return?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

David

 

[uksoldierboy]

Anyone care to help?

I'm contemplating return both the monitor and card, and just getting a smaller 1080p monitor with a 290/290x tbh.

 

[LtMatt]

I can help you with these questions mate.

1) That monitor is faulty. I know because mine had a similar blue smudge. Let ocuk know, they'll come and collect it and send you out a new one once they check it.

2). Asic has virtually no effect on overclock ability. All it means is how much voltage does your card require to run at stock clock. Your stock voltage will be 1.175v, i think. Unless you have a new higher stock voltage ala 7970 ghz edition voltage.

3) You have a low asic card. Generally, these are the best for overclocking. They respond better and can take more voltage before they crap out. However 99% of importance is the chip itself.

4) Your card will love voltage. If you really want to push it whack it up to 1.3v and see what core you can get out of it. I reckon you're looking at 1200-1250. Close to golden territory.

5) Leave the power limit at +20% in afterburner to stop throttling.

6) Check out my thread here and setup GPU overlays. Monitor that performance. Make sure the gpu is not down clocking, throttling etc.

7) In the end try to reduce core voltage as much as possible. You might be able to knock some down while keeping the core clock high.

 

[uksoldierboy]

Cheers for the help matt really appreciate it,

I'm a little bit hesitate about trying the above now though,

I'm wrote to CS about the monitor issue and as you say, it's a fault so i'll be returning it asap.


I think what i'm going to do with the 280x is return that too, get a tasty 1080p IPS monitor and put the rest towards a 290X after seeing the leaked benchmarks etc.

I know i'm a fussy bugger

I wish i had the funds to keep the monitor and get a 290X but i don't.

 

[LtMatt]

Are you sure? A 1440p monitor with a 280X crossfire setup sounds better than a 290X with a 1080p monitor to me. The 280X will be the faster solution and 1440p is great. I couldn't go back to 1080p now personally.

That said i can understand the appeal of the 290X.

 

[uksoldierboy]

I'm not enough sure myself pal,

I do love the extra detail and space on this monitor...

Maybe i'll replace the monitor stay @1440P and go for a 290, then add another after christmas.

Sounds better right?

 

[LtMatt]

I'm not enough sure myself pal,

I do love the extra detail and space on this monitor...

Maybe i'll replace the monitor stay @1440P and go for a 290, then add another after christmas.

Sounds better right?

Why don't you try the 280X crossfire on the 1440p monitor. If you're not happy DSR the cards before the 14 days expire and get a 290X?

 

[uksoldierboy]

Cheers Matt,

I'll have a think about it tonight and decide what to do, Crossfire 280Xs do sounds great,
But if the 290/290x comes close to the performance of them i know i'll want to return them and buy into "new tech", silly i know.

I really don't want to be messing Ocuk around DSR-ing again..

I'll have a good think tonight and let you know what i decide to do.

 

[LtMatt]

Cheers Matt,

I'll have a think about it tonight and decide what to do, Crossfire 280Xs do sounds great,
But if the 290/290x comes close to the performance of them i know i'll want to return them and buy into "new tech", silly i know.

I really don't want to be messing Ocuk around DSR-ing again..

I'll have a good think tonight and let you know what i decide to do.

Take your time and think it over.

 

[old gamer]

I have the same monitor, got a faulty one that was replaced and could find no fault with the replacment, also have 2 7970's and more than happy with there performance and think im going to give the 290x a miss and see what comes around next gen

 

[Noxia]

I don't think a single 290X will equal CF 280X tbh.

 

[uksoldierboy]

I have the same monitor, got a faulty one that was replaced and could find no fault with the replacment, also have 2 7970's and more than happy with there performance and think im going to give the 290x a miss and see what comes around next gen

Yeah it sucks, really love the size/detail on the screen so hoping my replacement is fault free
No doubt that 7970s/280X in crossfire would give me the performance i want, just it's the first time i've had the money to buy pretty much the latest gear, 4770k etc, so i'd like to continue that theme if i can lol.
If the 290/290x peroformance isn't up to much compared to the 280Cf, i'll just get that and be done with it.

I don't think a single 290X will equal CF 280X tbh.

I don't either Noxia, as long as it's close enough, i'll get one now and another after christmas, all i'll be playing is BF4 until then and i can't see a 290X struggling @1440p on bf4.. hopefully

 

[uksoldierboy]

Following your guide matt,

So far reached 1145 on the core and haven't touched the volts, tried for 1170 and crashed, had to restart the system.

In MSI Afterburner, the voltage is 1144v, yet while running heaven valley as per you guide, my voltage goes to 1.200, is that right?

How do i go about adding more volts now? do i start from 1.200 in afterburner? or do i increase from what it's showing @1144v?

Cheers pal.

 

[LtMatt]

Following your guide matt,

So far reached 1145 on the core and haven't touched the volts, tried for 1170 and crashed, had to restart the system.

In MSI Afterburner, the voltage is 1144v, yet while running heaven valley as per you guide, my voltage goes to 1.200, is that right?

How do i go about adding more volts now? do i start from 1.200 in afterburner? or do i increase from what it's showing @1144v?

Cheers pal.

Ah ive been wondering to myself how these new 280X cards work. Now i begin to understand what they've done. It looks like they have a boost voltage/core clock. The card will run at 850mhz core at stock with 1.144v, but proving temps and TDP levels are ok it will boost to 1030mhz core (or whatever core your card is) and the voltage will be at 1.2v. However they're using a slightly more conservative voltage this time. As usual though the boost voltage is slight overkill so allows for some decent overclocking without touching the voltage.

Ok do you have gpu overlays running? Important to make sure the card is not throttling at any point, with the core clock decreasing being a classic symptom of this.

So at 1.2v the card crashes at 1170, correct?

If so put the voltage up two notches to 1.212v and try again. Does it pass this time? How are temps?

 

[uksoldierboy]

Just tried bumping up the voltage to what you said...

Only to discover that it doesn't seem to be applying it

Card is well within temp thresholds (max of 66c)

Checked with Gpu-z, no throttling happening, clocks stays put at 1170 but the voltage doesn't increase.

confirmed this with logging on gpu-z and afterburner overlay.

Gpu-z reports voltage @1.182, overlay @1.200.

 

[LtMatt]

Just tried bumping up the voltage to what you said...

Only to discover that it doesn't seem to be applying it

Card is well within temp thresholds (max of 66c)

Checked with Gpu-z, no throttling happening, clocks stays put at 1170 but the voltage doesn't increase.

confirmed this with logging on gpu-z and afterburner overlay.

Gpu-z reports voltage @1.182, overlay @1.200.

The plot thickens. This could explain why you can't get past 1170. I wonder if you need to wait for a new version of afterburner to get voltage control. Quickly try bumping the core voltage up to 1.25v. It appears as though the stock non boost voltage is increasing rather than the boost voltage. It might be a case of you need to bump voltage further to get the boost voltage going further.

 

[uksoldierboy]

have done already pal, still no joy

I think i'm going to call it quits, take the card out and box it up ready for shipping back to Ocuk HQ.

By the looks of it, it's not really what i'm after, the monitor though is truly awesome! after spending a few hours with it today, i can honestly say i'm never going back to 1080P

Just need to get a replacement and hope that one's ok.

after Gibbo's comment in the 290X thread, i'm going do what i said, return this 280x and dig deep for a 290X instead.

 

[LtMatt]

have done already pal, still no joy

I think i'm going to call it quits, take the card out and box it up ready for shipping back to Ocuk HQ.

By the looks of it, it's not really what i'm after, the monitor though is truly awesome! after spending a few hours with it today, i can honestly say i'm never going back to 1080P

Just need to get a replacement and hope that one's ok.

after Gibbo's comment in the 290X thread, i'm going do what i said, return this 280x and dig deep for a 290X instead.

Furry muff.

 

[uksoldierboy]

Really appreciate all your help and advice though matt, thanks bud

 

[LtMatt]

Really appreciate all your help and advice though matt, thanks bud

Nay bother.