Racist Man admits murder and mosque blasts

Narj said:
If he'd killed some foaming-mouth extremist Imam, then this would have made a bit more sense. What sort of low life must you be to think an 82 year old deserves this? :mad:
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What on earth?? :confused:

Where did I say an 82 year old man deserved to die? :confused:

My point was that the scum who murdered the old man stated he did so because he was Muslim.

He has shown what scum he is by attacking an 82 year old man, not a 25 year old who would have had a better chance of fending him off.

But you just carry on reading into things that aren't there if it makes you feel better. :rolleyes:
 
GD has reached a new stage, a stage in which I genuinely can't tell who is being stupid & who is being sarcastic.
 
AmyS said:
What on earth?? :confused:

Where did I say an 82 year old man deserved to die? :confused:
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Nooo I wasn't implying that... not directed at you... I was wondering what sort of sick **** the guy they arrested was. Bad wording, my fault.
 
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Monserrat said:
Latinos as in South American origin? You can give me some good Latin music any day! (favourite genre after electronic/dance stuff). Going back to racism, the amount of pigment one has in their skin doesn't bother me in the slightest i.e. I work with a Caribbean black lady and she's the bee's knees, good laugh.
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Latinos are of Mediterranean origin are they not? Decendents of the Spanish and Portugese?

Those damn Europeans and their birthrates taking over the US!
 
Amp34 said:
Latinos are of Mediterranean origin are they not? Decendents of the Spanish and Portugese?

Those damn Europeans and their birthrates taking over the US!
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It's a mix of Black African (More so in Brazil), native american Indian and Spanish and Portugese descendants.

I'm Colombian myself and going back far enough on my mums side she descended from the Spanish and my father side is VERY native american Indian.

I prefer my race because they are predominately Roman Catholic, but they don't go around flooding areas and trying to change the fundamental culture of the area. Latino are extremely compatible to English culture and english values, plus the girls and food are AMAZING! :D

Same can be said for people from the far east such as the Chinese and Japanese, nothing wrong with them and again they don't try to change the culture as they are also very compatible to English culture. My GF is Chinese and we all share the same values

Unlike people from the middle east which are so different they might as well come from another planet.
 
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Narj said:
Not eating Bacon. I mean, what's that all about! :D

Damn, I fancy BBQ Pork ribs now.
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*Not eating Bacon
*Segregating women in general life
*Making women dress like nuns and general women's rights issues
*Against gay rights

Not to mention the more controversial ascepts such as
*Questionable hygiene standards when preparing food
*Higher then average killing within the family (see honor killings and swiss family massicure, also the imam that started the South Woodford mosque had an incident when one brother killed the other)
*Higher than average extremism in Islam than any other religion
*Jihads
I could go on

The Geezer said:
Not forgetting converting those heathens in South America, North America, Asia, Africa and Australasia
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This isn't the 15th centurty anymore, that argument simply doesn't wash in the 21st
 
AmyS said:
Are people actually claiming the reason (given by the murderer) is irrelevant?
How is it not?

R.I.P Mr Saleem.

How odd he didn't find a 25 year old to attack, I suppose an 82 year old is fair game then? :(
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Thats a bit of a random reply... Are old people more important than young people then? The 82 year old was almost at the end of his life, the 25 year old not even a third of the way through. If both had done nothing wrong then why should the young person have to die?
 
robgmun said:
*Not eating Bacon
*Segregating women in general life
*Making women dress like nuns and general women's rights issues
*Against gay rights

Not to mention the more controversial ascepts such as
*Questionable hygiene standards when preparing food
*Higher then average killing within the family (see honor killings and swiss family massicure, also the imam that started the South Woodford mosque had an incident when one brother killed the other)
*Higher than average extremism in Islam than any other religion
*Jihads
I could go on
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You do realise the above doesn't apply to all Muslims don't you?

There are plenty of Muslim women I know who are Doctors and Dentists (freedom to work), and on the school run I see plenty of Muslim women, a small number of whom wear the burka, but the vast majority wear their hair showing.

Roman Catholics are ''against gay rights''.

Plenty of White English men murder their wives for having an affair/leaving them, should they be classed as honour killings?
 
The Geezer said:
Of course it doesn't when we've colonised and changed religions and cultures forever, we need to protect it :rolleyes:
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Going on about that is just as pathetic as some black people in the US who still go on about Slavery, (usually the black panthers) No one is alive at the moment or even their grandchildren to remember it and is simply a way to invoke 'white guilt' to get what they want. The current racial issues that black people face in the US no longer has anything to do with it.

We are talking about the present and if you want to talk about the distant past then that's for another thread
 
Amp34 said:
Thats a bit of a random reply... Are old people more important than young people then? The 82 year old was almost at the end of his life, the 25 year old not even a third of the way through. If both had done nothing wrong then why should the young person have to die?
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No the point being about him being such a bully, probably at his fittest physically, who wanted to murder another person.
He chose a victim who couldn't have put up much of a fight at such an advanced age. The cowardice annoys me.

I do not think anyone ''should have to die''.

I did not want him to kill a 25 year old. :rolleyes:
 
AmyS said:
You do realise the above doesn't apply to all Muslims don't you?

There are plenty of Muslim women I know who are Doctors and Dentists (freedom to work), and on the school run I see plenty of Muslim women, a small number of whom wear the burka, but the vast majority wear their hair showing.

Roman Catholics are ''against gay rights''.

Plenty of White English men murder their wives for having an affair/leaving them, should they be classed as honour killings?
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I'd love to see that stats across religious lines, i think it won't show the picture that you're hoping. Honor killing are when parents kill there daughters for having the wrong boyfriend, either that or illegally kidnap them to another country and force them into marriage with someone much older then them. There was yet another article in the Evening Standard last night about it. I wonder how many English family do that? Or Roman Catholics? Or Buddhists? I haven't heard of a single one yet!
 
AmyS said:
Plenty of White English men murder their wives for having an affair/leaving them, should they be classed as honour killings?
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This is going to be a post and run as I don't really want to get into this debate again, but I believe honour killings refer to a premeditated murder of a family member often planned by several members of the family because they believe the victim brought shame on the family, as opposed to a what we'd normally class as a crime of passion (a husband killing an unfaithful wife). If the husband got his wife's parents involved in the murder and it wasn't condemned by the community it occured in, it would be more comparable. I wouldn't say one is necessarily worse than the other though and I agree with the rest of your post.
 
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robgmun said:
I'd love to see that stats across religious lines, i think it won't show the picture that you're hoping. Honor killing are when parents kill there daughters for having the wrong boyfriend, either that or illegally kidnap them to another country and force them into marriage with someone much older then them. There was yet another article in the Evening Standard last night about it. I wonder how many English family do that? Or Roman Catholics? Or Buddhists? I haven't heard of a single one yet!
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honour killing



noun

noun: honour killing; plural noun: honour killings; noun: honor killing; plural noun: honor killings



1.



the killing of a relative, especially a girl or woman, who is perceived to have brought dishonour on the family.
 
Falling back on the dictionary just shows you've run out of any counter arguments, you cannot show i am wrong can't you?

Thank you and goodnight

EDIT - Just to be clear and on point, this murder is horrible and i hope the person is bang up away for life as he is scum. As all attacks are on all humans. But i also cannot agree that the motive doesn't matter, of course it does
 
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robgmun said:
Falling back on the dictionary just shows you've run out of any counter arguments, you cannot show i am wrong can't you?

Thank you and goodnight

EDIT - Just to be clear and on point, this murder is horrible and i hope the person is bang up away for life as he is scum. As all attacks are on all humans. But i also cannot agree that the motive doesn't matter, of course it does
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