Racist Man admits murder and mosque blasts

robgmun said:
It went off topic before then end of the first page, now we're in page 11. And you made comments since it went of topic in the first place, why didn't you call for closure then? You don't want it closed because it went off topic, you want it closed because you're seeing posts you don't like.
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**** me, point out where i have said i want it closed because i dont like whats been said??. I couldnt give a flying hoot about what you, Rofflay and others say about muslims/islam. Fact is i dont see the point of this thread because yet again there is thinly veiled bashing going on, of course you will deny it as per usual.

I asked for it to be closed due to it going off topic, simple as that. Anyhow if it isnt closed then no big deal...let it carry on with everyone just going round in circles.

Stop arguing for the sake of arguing for gods sake.
 
Yas786 said:
**** me, point out where i have said i want it closed because i dont like whats been said??.
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because yet again there is thinly veiled bashing going on
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Well it's clear to to me you don't like whats being said! Otherwise why is winding you up so much? It would be helpful if people wouldn't jump up and down yelling racist!! racist!! and realise that people have very deep and legitimate concerns for a culture that's almost completely incompatible with the western world.


You can choose not to come into this thread if it winds you up so much. Otherwise if you insist on coming in here then it would be great if we can have a real debate on points being raised and not just be dismissive like most Muslims tend to be censor debate so people won't question what they're up to
 
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robgmun said:
Well it's clear to to me you don't like whats being said! Otherwise why is winding you up so much? It would be helpful if people wouldn't jump up and down yelling racist!! racist!! and realise that people have very deep and legitimate concerns for a culture that's almost completely incompatible with the western world.


You can choose not to come into this thread if it winds you up so much. Otherwise if you insist on coming in here then it would be great if we can have a real debate on points being raised and not just be dismissive like most Muslims tend to be censor debate so people won't question what they're up to
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I think Yas' point is relevant...unless you are somehow justifying the murder of an 82 year-old man by stating "that people have very deep and legitimate concerns for a culture that's almost completely incompatible with the western world".

In fact, now I am curious - do you really mean that? Is it possible? Do you not see how slippery the slope you are starting to go down is?
 
Random Guy said:
I think Yas' point is relevant...unless you are somehow justifying the murder of an 82 year-old man by stating "that people have very deep and legitimate concerns for a culture that's almost completely incompatible with the western world".

In fact, now I am curious - do you really mean that? Is it possible? Do you not see how slippery the slope you are starting to go down is?
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Well before we go on lets knock this one on the head. No of course not and this was already covered a couple of pages back. In my eyes all killing is wrong unless that person is about to kill you (i.e. self-defense).

Yes, people have very deep and legitimate concerns for this culture, but it's not the first time in this thread that people have tried to equate this to murder, which i see as a very sneaky and underhanded way to undermine people who want debate on the subject to be opened up.
 
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robgmun said:
Well it's clear to to me you don't like whats being said! Otherwise why is winding you up so much? It would be helpful if people wouldn't jump up and down yelling racist!! racist!! and realise that people have very deep and legitimate concerns for a culture that's almost completely incompatible with the western world.


You can choose not to come into this thread if it winds you up so much. Otherwise if you insist on coming in here then it would be great if we can have a real debate on points being raised and not just be dismissive like most Muslims tend to be censor debate so people won't question what they're up to
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What in gods name you on about now robgmun?? what next are you going to start telling us how much better oriental women are compared to non oriental women??.

Hardly being wound up other than your silly assumptions that i dont like whats being said in this thread. My only issues is with this thread is that there is some thinly veiled attacks being made and the fact that this thread has gone so far off topic that its not even funny anymore.

Let me spell it out for you rob seeing as you have some sort of issue with reading comprehension, this thread was about some guy who attacked a poor defenceless 80 yr old man who happened to be muslim, killed him then was putting some sort of bombs around a mosque. This wasnt a thread about islam/muslims and whether they are welcome here or not.

I havent come into this thread since my first reply, only came in here to see what sort of nonsense was being spouted off by Rofflay as i find him quite an interesting chap with his views...i personally dont care for his views, hes entitled to them just as much as i am and im making my view clear that this thread needs to be closed. If you dont like it then fair enough, call it a day rather than needlessly arguing the point because its not getting anywhere.

As for views being censored??, im muslim i dont care really what people say about us. I know that i dont go round causing any harm or trouble to non muslims or muslims. Meh i just live my life in a peaceful way, practise my religion/faith in a peaceful way.

Anyhow im out, enjoy the pointless arguing and debating.
 
Rofflay said:
He should also have a wide array of knowledge that would include our history right up from Barbarian Celts to the Romans, Norman's and the Saxons and the Nazi's.
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As someone of a Celtic Immigrant background, I am offended by the use of "barbarians". Celtic culture was not uncivilised.
 
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Yas786 said:
What in gods name you on about now robgmun?? what next are you going to start telling us how much better oriental women are compared to non oriental women??.
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If the debate goes that way then i'm comfortable talking about it.

Hardly being wound up other than your silly assumptions that i dont like whats being said in this thread. My only issues is with this thread is that there is some thinly veiled attacks being made and the fact that this thread has gone so far off topic that its not even funny anymore.
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You seem seriously wound up to me, but you only doing yourself a disservice by continuing to come into this thread being borderline insulting rather than challenging me on my views.

Let me spell it out for you rob seeing as you have some sort of issue with reading comprehension, this thread was about some guy who attacked a poor defenceless 80 yr old man who happened to be muslim, killed him then was putting some sort of bombs around a mosque. This wasnt a thread about islam/muslims and whether they are welcome here or not.
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It is now, otherwise this thread would have been done by page 2. "RIP sad he's gone", "what a disgrace", a few days later "Good, scum put away for life"
and that's it? This forum would be utterly boring if it was as 1 dimensional as that

I havent come into this thread since my first reply, only came in here to see what sort of nonsense was being spouted off by Rofflay as i find him quite an interesting chap with his views...i personally dont care for his views, hes entitled to them just as much as i am and im making my view clear that this thread needs to be closed. If you dont like it then fair enough, call it a day rather than needlessly arguing the point because its not getting anywhere.
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And at points you ramble just as badly as Rofflay does. Rofflay has some good points in his posts somewhere but it's lost in incoherent and unfocused rambling. You find him interesting because he's easy to challenge and put down as a far right loony in your mind (Just to be clear i don't think he is).

As for views being censored??, im muslim i dont care really what people say about us. I know that i dont go round causing any harm or trouble to non muslims or muslims. Meh i just live my life in a peaceful way, practise my religion/faith in a peaceful way.
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If that's the case then you shouldn't be stifling debate, in fact why don't you talk to me about all the good things the moderate Muslims have done to combat extremism in your midst? Or how much more could be done in this regard? I'm almost aching to hear examples to counter my experiences i posted in the previous page, just in case you missed it, did you know i converted to Islam in 2002?

Anyhow im out, enjoy the pointless arguing and debating.
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Mores the pity, i would have enjoyed talking to you
 
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robgmun said:
Well it's clear to to me you don't like whats being said! Otherwise why is winding you up so much? It would be helpful if people wouldn't jump up and down yelling racist!! racist!! and realise that people have very deep and legitimate concerns for a culture that's almost completely incompatible with the western world.


You can choose not to come into this thread if it winds you up so much. Otherwise if you insist on coming in here then it would be great if we can have a real debate on points being raised and not just be dismissive like most Muslims tend to be censor debate so people won't question what they're up to
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Why would Yas be objecting to a few racists being made to look like fools page after page after page, he's obviously not trying to stop a debate he doesn't like the direction of, he's blatantly just sick of the same old hot ticket topic with the same names and themes as always, even the edl er leadership got tired of it, there are tens of millions of white Britons who are also sick of it and hate the racists responsible.
 
Man what an epic thread in it's own right. There's a bit of everything in here. Racism, idiocy, down right retardation, a bit of generalization, hypocrisy, some glimmers of rationality, and even a guy thinking a PhD is an IQ test.

Amazing.
 
You find him interesting because he's easy to challenge and put down as a far right loony in your mind (Just to be clear i don't think he is).
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For the record i might as well leave it with the statement that i am actually a left wing nationalist. Take the political spectrum quiz linked somewhere on these forums and have a go. I polled just slightly left of Ghandi for god sake!

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And the story you posted was very interesting as was Asim's and congratulation's to both of you for leaving a religion that just like in the Torah teaches that Infidel's and Gentiles are inferior. Both the books are racist and if you think God is going to burn you and torture you for not following a confusing mish mash of unclear scripture from three major religion's than ask yourself what kind of God must he be. If i was God i would isolate sinner's until repentance free from the pain most of them caused other's. If he is into sadistic torture well then to hell with him not me! All you need to do is live in moderation and avoid being cruel and dishonest. If people really need two thousand year old holy books to learn right and wrong then we are a failure. It is those same books that have been the biggest meat grinder's of people since time began. From witchhunts to jihad no one knows how many millions or most likely billions have died due to those books.


Ciao
 
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Robinhood said:
Tread was about a Ukrainian student murder of an 82-year-old man.Now it's about immigration and Islam.
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That's OcUK's answer to Godwin's Law: no matter how a thread starts, eventually it will end up talking about Muslims and/or immigration. This one took a little longer than expected (that is, more than five posts) but we got there in the end: an almost complete reversal of the opening position.
 
I only read this **** when im having a **** but its getting boring!

Either talk about how bad Muslims/Polish/Russians or get out!

I hate to break it to people but there really is no god and anyone who believes there is, is bonkers!
 
robgmun said:
Well it's clear to to me you don't like whats being said! Otherwise why is winding you up so much? It would be helpful if people wouldn't jump up and down yelling racist!! racist!! and realise that people have very deep and legitimate concerns for a culture that's almost completely incompatible with the western world.


You can choose not to come into this thread if it winds you up so much. Otherwise if you insist on coming in here then it would be great if we can have a real debate on points being raised and not just be dismissive like most Muslims tend to be censor debate so people won't question what they're up to
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Racist racist racist?

Let me guess, Craterloads have been in the thread calling it out randomly?
 
regulus said:
Racist racist racist?

Let me guess, Craterloads have been in the thread calling it out randomly?
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LOL :D

I meant in general media when issues regarding immigration and culture are discussed, a good example was on Question Time last week. When they got to the issue of immigration as soon as the first left wing speaker started it wasn't more then 15 seconds when she started going on about Xenophobia. My heart just sank as every time it a section of people that just want to sweep the problems under the carpet and pretend it's not happening.

A lot of people are sick and tired of the censorship of the debate.
 
Allot of people are also sick and tired of the usual islamaphobes spouting their rubbish in this part of the forums too mate ;)

It's one thing to debate but to just bang on and on and on and on with the same thing over and over again, blinded by prejudice - it's pathetic and tiring really.
 
zoomee said:
Allot of people are also sick and tired of the usual islamaphobes spouting their rubbish in this part of the forums too mate ;)
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I don't know about these forums but in the general population it's more like what i said, otherwise the likes of UKIP wouldn't rise so quickly, Even the Conservatives are doing the best to dial back immigration because people are fed up with it
 
robgmun said:
I don't know about these forums but in the general population it's more like what i said, otherwise the likes of UKIP wouldn't rise so quickly, Even the Conservatives are doing the best to dial back immigration because people are fed up with it
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Its the same old tired story of finding a scapegoat. Pity it rears it head on a thread like this (quite disgusting actually imo).
 
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