Racist Man admits murder and mosque blasts

Anyway, I was really hoping Asim would elaborate on his story of climbing out of the mire that is peer pressure and imposed beliefs (which is admirable and I sincerely tip my hat to him for it). Being an apostate must be pretty tough and all, but in the absence of his reply...

 
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No i want them to take it back once thier visa is over and not settle. This trend of working here and becoming British is just wrong. If i go and live in Asia until i am 90 am i Asian? Are my children Asian? Did we intermarry with natives to become Asian?

Go look at a map. You'll notice that Europe and Asia are the same continent. Whether or not you or your children in this hypothetical scenario become Asian is, therefore, a distinction that isn't anywhere near as clear-cut as you think it is.

A person's nationality depends primarily on them. Take me, for example. I'm English. My native language is English, which I speak with an English accent. I'm English because that's my culture. I'm the first generation of my family born English...but that doesn't mean that I'm not English. It means that my ancestors weren't English. My recent ancestors became English because they did, and I don't mean in terms of paperwork. I mean culturally. For example, they spoke only English from the day they settled in England. My mother (who was a young child at that time) grew up with the local English accent. Language matters - it's a strong indicator of nationality.

Hell no so stop spouting this myth that hey look at me i am British with my British visa.
Why would asim18 have a British visa? He's British. He'd need a visa to go somewhere else, presumably.

You cannot even grasp that the only reason they are here is to help our economy and give a better life to them. They already make a profit for Britain INC by doing the work for the employer. If they take the saving's back to India or Pakistan maybe they might actually get some decent roads and schools and not be falling over themselves to get here and swamp us.
So...you must be very strongly in favour of outsourcing as many jobs as possible overseas, right?

Your position makes a change from the usual "taking our jobs!" line, but it makes less sense. It's not generally a good idea for a country to lose money like that, nor is it an efficient way of upgrading another country. You'd be better off arguing that the UK should send many billions of pounds of free money to India and Pakistan on the condition that it's used for infrastructure upgrades...which, by the way, is impossible. Have you seen the size of India? The UK couldn't make much of a dent on infrastructure upgrades there, even if we had lots of spare money (which, obviously, we don't).

And once again the person who claims to be intelligent, articulate and have a high quality education much better than most Brits has to resort to petty insults. grammar and refuses to read past the first paragraph. It seems a bit pathetic and it is the last time i post in here because it is not even a proper discussion. You still ignore my main facts and have once again resorted to nothing but insults. Oh and wherever you got that education son you really need to ask for a refund.
Your arguments are irrational and inconsistent and you present them in a semiliterate way. That matters.
 
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OK ladies :p. Don't get this thread closed before Narj has a chance to read my story :)

Cheers for posting that. It's ok, the mods will do another clean up. :D

I remember as a kid, being pushed into going to church quite a bit (it was mainly a CofE school thing), particularly around the religious festivals. As a kid, a big church or cathedral can be quite overwhelming and can seem pretty special but I knew from a young age that I didn't believe in any of it.

Like you, pretty much the first books my parents bought for me were science/space ones so I was far more interested in the possibility of aliens existing than there being a God.

I can't say the CofE aspect did me any harm in my childhood, "do unto others" is still something I think is important but I don't think you need any sort of religion to have morality.
 
OK ladies :p. Don't get this thread closed before Narj has a chance to read my story :)

Thank you for that post, very interesting reading. It also highlights the very difference between the religions, I will tell you my story now, it might shock and surprise you due to my previous posts but i converted to Islam in 2002...

In 1997 i met my then girlfriend at uni and she was Bangladeshi. In 2004 we had our Nika and we where married. I have read the Quran and there was nothing in it that i objected to and coming from Roman Catholic family i found many many similarities, in fact large sections of the Quran are just a readers digest version of the Bible! My family were very accepting of my conversion.

But being involved in the community and having first hand experience of that community opened my eyes to the sheer hypocrisy of the people that claim to be devote. The "it's our way or else" approach to life. Scores of men that would slate western women for being whores but then run to the Strip Clubs and Prostitutes, just just plan chase and sleep around with white girls even if they're married. (One idiot is even chasing my current gf but she thinks he's the most disgusting guy on earth). Men who beat there wives and thinks it's not a problem. Her brother smoked like a chimney when it's prohibited in Islam. All fine if they want to live how they live, but don't then turn around and preach to others!! People from that part of the world seem to lie through there teeth as a matter of course, they're just not honest and that broke my heart! I felt let down and betrayed that what i converted to didn't even hold true to a majority of people that call themselves 'Muslim'

A vast majority of the problems with Islam is actually from the the hadith, not the Quran! I reject the hadith because it's not from God. In 2007 my marriage broke down to to her mental illness and we divorced.

So now i'm straddling between being Catholic and Muslim, I pray from the Quran but i take after Jesus as my true prophet as i prefer his way of life and dealing with things, Not the firebrand rain of death approach to anything that so called Muslims object to. Yes i eat pork, no i don't drink or smoke. I'm happy and i think (or i feel) God is with me in my choices because he is a forgiving god and loves me. I also feel that a lot of the rules he laid down were for the time and don't count these days because humans and the environment has drastically changed.

So way am i so against the Mosque? It's because that place has been built on lies, it's not the religion so much but the culture and the people and the way they want to just 'take over' and when they do there are many many examples of freedoms being eroded (Such as what the Taliban do when they take over a region) or Saudi Arabia, Iran etc etc etc. I don't want that happening here.

Sorry i'm rambling now

By the way i did Physics in uni, and continue to be heavily involved in science but i don't see anything yet that disproves God.
 
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By the way i did Physics in uni, and continue to be heavily involved in science but i don't see anything yet that disproves God.

I don't see anything that disproves the existence of a Flying Spaghetti Monster, either. :D

While there are a lot of uncanny coincidences in the universe (repeating patterns at all scales for example), I don't think it suggests that there is a god. This universe could be some alien kid's science project or ant farm for all we know.
 
I don't see anything that disproves the existence of a Flying Spaghetti Monster, either. :D

While there are a lot of uncanny coincidences in the universe (repeating patterns at all scales for example), I don't think it suggests that there is a god. This universe could be some alien kid's science project or ant farm for all we know.

Of course, we interpret the world around us as individuals. What i see one way you'll see in another. We won't know who's right until i'm shaking your hand in the afterlife or we're both worm food
 
No i want them to take it back once thier visa is over and not settle. This trend of working here and becoming British is just wrong. If i go and live in Asia until i am 90 am i Asian? Are my children Asian? Did we intermarry with natives to become Asian? Hell no so stop spouting this myth that hey look at me i am British with my British visa. You cannot even grasp that the only reason they are here is to help our economy and give a better life to them. They already make a profit for Britain INC by doing the work for the employer. If they take the saving's back to India or Pakistan maybe they might actually get some decent roads and schools and not be falling over themselves to get here and swamp us.



And once again the person who claims to be intelligent, articulate and have a high quality education much better than most Brits has to resort to petty insults. grammar and refuses to read past the first paragraph. It seems a bit pathetic and it is the last time i post in here because it is not even a proper discussion. You still ignore my main facts and have once again resorted to nothing but insults. Oh and wherever you got that education son you really need to ask for a refund.

Hey come on folks I've gone to the trouble of adding rofflay to my ignore list can posters stop quoting it in detail, thanks.


Opps.

There is a God and it's a women and she's well fit ;)
 
Opps.

There is a God and it's a women and she's well fit ;)

Lol I hope you're not under the impression that I thought my appeal to gd would have the effect I was apparently after, as that would be laughable.

There most likely isn't a god, if it existed it would be alien to earth and therefore not a woman sooooo probably not well fit :rolleyes:
 
Just got his PhD and now he's in prison with no chance of parole before he's 65 in 40 years time. Unbelievable. How can someone throw their whole life away for such utter pettiness and stupidity. That someone so clever who gets himself a PhD can be so incredibly dumb is mind boggling.

Proof that a PHD is not a measure of intelligence....
 
Proof that a PHD is not a measure of intelligence....

Was it ever a measure of intelligence? A qualification only shows that someone is capable of putting their head down for a moment in time, not necessarily use common sense and logic elsewhere in life. IMO intelligence is measured by the quality of someone's character and not by the credentials they hold or even their beliefs.
 
Wow this thread still going on??...only in ****ing GD would you get a thread that starts out about some racist/xenophobic scumbag getting a prison term and within the first page, it completely goes off topic when you have Rofflay spouting his complete nonsense lol.

Dear god someone close this thread.
 
Why? This thread has been pretty civil int he last page or so? Why is it a certain section of society always want to shut down debate when opposing views get aired? That's the point of freedom, i may not like what you say but i will defend your right to say it. And it was on that basis that our grandfathers fought WW2
 
Why? This thread has been pretty civil int he last page or so? Why is it a certain section of society always want to shut down debate when opposing views get aired? That's the point of freedom, i may not like what you say but i will defend your right to say it. And it was on that basis that our grandfathers fought WW2

Tread was about a Ukrainian student murder of an 82-year-old man.Now it's about immigration and Islam.
 
Spot on, this topic has gone off topic and should be closed.

RTM'd

It went off topic before then end of the first page, now we're in page 11. And you made comments since it went of topic in the first place, why didn't you call for closure then? You don't want it closed because it went off topic, you want it closed because you're seeing posts you don't like.
 
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