How do police deal with amputees?

Von Smallhausen said:
West Yorkshire, Leeds. Pc Ian Broadhurst was shot in the chest then executed with a shot to the head. Another officer was shot and wounded and a third officer was saved by the bullet hitting his radio.

David Bieber argued against his whole life term which was held and reduced to 37 years minimum tariff.
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at which point he will be in his 70's and no sane parole board will allow his release, even if they were that stupid he will be extradited to America where they will lock him up until he is dead.
 
I would have thought it's as much for their own protection? In case 'you' decide to flip out in the car and cause an accident or sneakily unload some stashed 'evidence' into the back seat?
 
doofski said:
Remember the 2 cops who didnt handcuff that american guy, and he pulled a gun in the car and executed them both. Think it was somewhere near london.
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Von Smallhausen said:
West Yorkshire, Leeds. Pc Ian Broadhurst was shot in the chest then executed with a shot to the head. Another officer was shot and wounded and a third officer was saved by the bullet hitting his radio.

David Bieber argued against his whole life term which was held and reduced to 37 years minimum tariff.
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The shooting actually occurred when they tried to handcuff him.....

They identified the number plates as false, and asked him to accompany them to the police car, where Bieber sat in the back seat. The officers were uneasy and so called for backup which they received from colleague James Banks.
Roper then moved to handcuff Bieber, who - facing imprisonment for various offences in the UK and possible extradition to Florida - drew a 9 mm handgun and fired an initial four shots at the unarmed police officers, who tried to flee. Roper was hit twice in the shoulder and abdomen, but managed to get away. Broadhurst was shot once in the back and immobilised. Banks escaped injury after a bullet hit his radio. Bieber then walked over to where Broadhurst was lying, and fired a fifth shot into his head at point blank range. It was the first fatal shooting of an English police officer for over eight years
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I thought they handcuffed the full arm to the persons belt behind their back if possible...

might of heard wrong though.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Yes, it is an option. Funny enough this scenario is covered in training.
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Von Smallhausen said:
It's an option as Burnsy says but I'm not a fan of it.
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Seriously? This is actually deemed as an option?

All it takes is for the arrested person to start struggling and the cop has a fractured wrist and, even if they don't, the cop cant get away to maintain a reaction gap and resort to other techniques.

If I was a cop, there is NO way I would be handcuffing anyone to me.

I find this baffling and alarming that certain forces deem this as a viable option :confused:
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Yes, it is an option. Funny enough this scenario is covered in training.
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Funny how some Forces allow this. My Force does not cover this scenario since it specifically states we should not cuff a prisoner to an Officer (or moving objects). Rigid handcuffs hurt like hell if twisted and I certainly wouldn't want that to happen to me if a Prisoner kicked off.

I've actually had a situation where someone that needed arresting kicked off on myself and another Officer. He was wearing a dressing gown in his own house. We didn't realise that one of his arms was in a plaster cast from the elbow down... well not until we went to apply the handcuffs when he was face down being restrained!

This resulted in his arms and legs being wrapped in the Velcro restraints - which are really effective. He was then transported in a carrier monitored by a number of Officers.
 
Andy90 said:
Funny how some Forces allow this. My Force does not cover this scenario since it specifically states we should not cuff a prisoner to an Officer (or moving objects).
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Yeah, there is a lot of variation across the country. I wouldn't want anyone cuffed to me, but in obscure situations such as these you'll be making it up as you go along.
 
I was always under the impression that handcuffing someone to an object or another officer was a very bad idea, but if it can be justified....

I remember a story of some coppers in the US who were transporting a subject in the back of their car, he was cuffed to the front and was able to yank up the handbrake killing one of the officers. I guess you have to assess all the impact factors such as this when deciding where or if to cuff someone.
 
Reading Albert Pierrepoint's memoirs the other day, he recalled his father Henry had a special strap made in order to pinion a one arm man when he came to hang him.
 
Richie said:
Seriously? This is actually deemed as an option?

All it takes is for the arrested person to start struggling and the cop has a fractured wrist and, even if they don't, the cop cant get away to maintain a reaction gap and resort to other techniques.

If I was a cop, there is NO way I would be handcuffing anyone to me.

I find this baffling and alarming that certain forces deem this as a viable option :confused:
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In the scenario given it's an option. In normal circumstances, no way.
 
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