*** The Official Playstation 4 (PS4) Thread ***

pioneer2000 said:
Lol, that's the angriest post I've read in a while!

I'm sure lots of people give a toss. It's always annoying having to find somewhere to hide the brick and it makes moving it all more hassle- whenever I take my PS3 anywhere I can simply unplug the leads and away I go (because wherever I'm going will have a spare hdmi and kettle plug). With the xbox I have to drag that huge power brick and leads around as well.

The PS3 and now PS4 have proven that a consoles PSU can be internally located with no noticeable disadvantages. The only possibly reasons for Microsoft to make it external is a) to save design / manufacturing costs b) to make the console quieter / more reliable. If the PS3 vs 360 is anything to go by, it won't be any quieter nor reliable!
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You need to get to you GP right away, you must have a muscle wasting disease to honestly find any problem moving it about, also, exactly how often are you moving your console about the place?
 
cu3ed said:
You need to get to you GP right away, you must have a muscle wasting disease to honestly find any problem moving it about, also, exactly how often are you moving your console about the place?
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I've been moving them each every fortnight or so recently. I don't think sarcasm is necessary, it IS more troublesome to move a 360 than a PS3.
 
pioneer2000 said:
I've been moving them each every fortnight or so recently. I don't think sarcasm is necessary, it IS more troublesome to move a 360 than a PS3.
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I wasnt being sarcastic, if you seem so worried about putting your back out and your arms are having trouble picking it up, you have bigger health problems.

Its a complete and total non issue for everyone.
Like I pointed out on teh last page, there some VERY good design reasons to place the power unit out from the main board or ANY ELECTRICAL DEVICE!
 
Woden said:
Mid-range, a 50" W6.
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Bizarre as to the reasoning for that then. Was thinking maybe they justify it as some kind of means to reduce interference but if it's not a flagship model that seems a tad unnecessary/unlikely.

Bonkers really, my 55" Samsung and LG just use a thin figure of 8 lead and the sets are super thin.
 
cu3ed said:
I wasnt being sarcastic, if you seem so worried about putting your back out and your arms are having trouble picking it up, you have bigger health problems.

Its a complete and total non issue for everyone.
Like I pointed out on teh last page, there some VERY good design reasons to place the power unit out from the main board or ANY ELECTRICAL DEVICE!
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No there isn't.

Evidence from the most closely related devices (the 360 and PS3) prove that it doesn't make the product anymore reliable, any cooler, any cheaper, any quieter.

It's a complete marketing spin by Microsoft to justify their inefficient design choices.
 
pioneer2000 said:
Bizarre as to the reasoning for that then. Was thinking maybe they justify it as some kind of means to reduce interference but if it's not a flagship model that seems a tad unnecessary/unlikely.

Bonkers really, my 55" Samsung and LG just use a thin figure of 8 lead and the sets are super thin.
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It's weird with Sony being so good with internal PSUs! :D

Probably just cost-cutting. I bet they use the same brick for all their models this year.
 
I'm shocked that this is an issue to someone.

Would it be better do have the PSU in the box? Yes, probably.

Does anyone care? Yes, probably 0.000001% of people who will be buying either console.

The only times I might even think about the power brick; if I live in a tiny apartment the size of a small apartment in Tokyo. Even then, I'm sure a power brick wouldn't make a difference or if I wanted to move my console but as I could still pick it all up in one go it wouldn't make a difference.

I understand the graphical power debate but this is just insane.
 
pioneer2000 said:
No there isn't.

Evidence from the most closely related devices (the 360 and PS3) prove that it doesn't make the product anymore reliable, any cooler, any cheaper, any quieter.

It's a complete marketing spin by Microsoft to justify their inefficient design choices.
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Yes their is, go study product engineering.
1000's or products use the same thinking.
Benefits
Power bricks can convert voltage more efficiently than many internal devices such as linear regulators, which are used to modify voltage rates. The size of power bricks reduces energy loss and ensures better safety, since the interior transformer isolates the voltage output from the electrical main line.

Laptops, exteran HD's Cinema systems etc etc.
 
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Was weird seeing my mates PS4 copy of Ghosts turning up earlier on in the week, initially we thought he ordered a PS3 version but it was the PS4 version.
 
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