3rd party 780Ti reviews

[TheRealDeal]

Straight from the techpowerup conclusion.

"NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 780 Ti successfully captures the single GPU performance crown back from AMD. The card delivers impressive performance thanks to the GK110 GPU which has all its 2,880 shaders enabled. Averaged over all our benchmarks, performance is almost 10% higher than the GTX Titan and 8% higher than the R9 290X in its noisy "Uber" mode."

So 8 percent overall.

 

[Gregster]

Using 1600P

Assassins Creed 3 = 780Ti wins by 5%
BF3 = 780Ti wins by 5%
BioShock Infinite = 780Ti wins by 11%
Black Ops 2 = 780Ti wins by 16%
Call of Juarez = 780Ti wins by 1% (nothing)
Crysis 3 = 780Ti wins by 1% (nothing)
Diablo 3 = 780Ti wins by 16%
FarCry 3 = 780Ti wins by 11%
Grid 2 = 780Ti wins by 2% (nothing)
Hitman Absolution = 780TI wins by 10%
Splinter cell: Blacklist = 780Ti wins by 10%
MetroLL = 780Ti wins by 1% (Nothing)
Sleeping dogs = 780TI wins by 1% (Nothing)
Splinter cell: Blacklist = 780Ti wins by 36%

There is no question the 780TI wins half the games @ 1600P, but only by an average of about 8%

The only place you will see the difference at 1600P is in your wallet.

Well there is, as I was being fair and bringing benchs that the 290X won a coupe in. The 780Ti doesn't win half the game, it wins ALL the games

8% is referred to as "Destroying" the 290X (Someone once said it needs to be over 5% before something destroys it or similar)

Straight from the techpowerup conclusion.

"NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 780 Ti successfully captures the single GPU performance crown back from AMD. The card delivers impressive performance thanks to the GK110 GPU which has all its 2,880 shaders enabled. Averaged over all our benchmarks, performance is almost 10% higher than the GTX Titan and 8% higher than the R9 290X in its noisy "Uber" mode."

So 8 percent overall.

As Mathematics is my total weak point, I would be happy for you to show me where I went wrong on getting 12.5% average faster overall

 

[whyscotty]

I would like to see what clock speed the 780 TI clocked its self upto, looks pretty high as it 15% faster than the ref- one.

Its not a fair comparison to the 290X as even with an AIB cooler it would still only run at ~1000Mhz unless its a factory overclock, and we all know the 290X might not even be running at 1000Mhz with the ref- cooler.

Agreed

This is why user benchmarks are better, as you get a more accurate comparison

 

[TheRealDeal]

Well there is, as I was being fair and bringing benchs that the 290X won a coupe in. The 780Ti doesn't win half the game, it wins ALL the games

8% is referred to as "Destroying" the 290X (Someone once said it needs to be over 5% before something destroys it or similar)



As Mathematics is my total weak point, I would be happy for you to show me where I went wrong on getting 12.5% average faster overall

I am just relying on the guy at techpowerup knowing maths lol.

 

[humbug]

Well there is, as I was being fair and bringing benchs that the 290X won a coupe in. The 780Ti doesn't win half the game, it wins ALL the games

8% is referred to as "Destroying" the 290X (Someone once said it needs to be over 5% before something destroys it or similar)



As Mathematics is my total weak point, I would be happy for you to show me where I went wrong on getting 12.5% average faster overall

1 and 2%, i will give you that if you so desperately want it to say it wins all the games

Your understanding of English is also your weakpoint, you cited 1080P where it is 12.5%, i did not dispute that, i made it abundantly clear that i'm citing 1600P.

If it also makes you happy to call it destroying? go ahead, there are more important things in life to me than raging over a GPU brand.

I will however stand by my proposition that the 780TI is to much more expensive for the little performance gain.
Argue that until your blue in the face, it is what it is.

 

[ubersonic]

The thing that sticks in my mind when looking at all this, is the them memory of how the HD7970 struggled against the GTX670 and was flat out owned by the GTX680, but then multiple driver improvements saw it pull away from the GTX670 and park itself in front of the GTX680 (from which the HD7970-GHz then pulled away from).

It's a bit too early to be deciding who's won/lost IMO, we know who's winning ATM but as last tier showed us it's all subject to change.

 

[dmferrett]

Anyhow I really want to see the effect a partner board and cooler has on the 290 (Non x). Because if that retails for 300 notes and hits comparable fps to the ti its gonna make ti owners sick to the core because its half the money for virtually the same performance. The 512bit memory bandwidth and 4gb Vram has to add something to the value and performance stakes in my estimation. I've already got friends running BF4 in high with (2gb) 680's in Sli to avoid using all the mem frame buffer that ultra 4xmsaa will need and likewise regret getting a 2 gb card. So for thiese next gen high res cards 4Gb and an extended 512 bandwidth is really the way to go.

 

[Gregster]

1 and 2%, i will give you that if you so desperately want it to say it wins all the games

Your understanding of English is also your weakpoint, you cited 1080P where it is 12.5%, i did not dispute that, i made it abundantly clear that i'm citing 1600P.

If it also makes you happy to call it destroying? go ahead, there are more important things in life to me than raging over a GPU brand.

I will however stand by my proposition that the 780TI is to much more expensive for the little performance gain.
Argue that until your blue in the face, it is what it is.

I don't so desperately want to see anything and just stating facts. Rather harsh comment in truth.

Going from your own history, you paid £240 for a 7870 (Non XT version) and this card is twice as fast as that card was at launch and then some, so taking into account, launch over launch, the 780Ti appears great value over a pair of launch 7870's

 

[humbug]

I don't so desperately want to see anything and just stating facts. Rather harsh comment in truth.

Going from your own history, you paid £240 for a 7870 (Non XT version) and this card is twice as fast as that card was at launch and then some, so taking into account, launch over launch, the 780Ti appears great value over a pair of launch 7870's

Really? Good Grief...

I bought a Gigabyte WF 7870 hours after it was released, i predicted the GTX 660TI would be £300, and i was right, nether less less you pay for early adoption. i knew that when i bought it.

So?

 

[Kaapstad]

I would like to see what clock speed the 780 TI clocked its self upto, looks pretty high as it 15% faster than the ref- one.

Its not a fair comparison to the 290X as even with an AIB cooler it would still only run at ~1000Mhz unless its a factory overclock, and we all know the 290X might not even be running at 1000Mhz with the ref- cooler.

Mine run fine @1000mhz with the ref cooler, actually they run fine @1200mhz with the ref cooler. There is just the small problem of the noise if the cooler fans are turned up. A non ref cooler will fix the noise levels no problem.

 

[Something Else]

I want a 780ti but its just the pricing that puts me off right now. By the time it becomes affordable I will want the current gen thing which I wont be able to afford.

Therefore I buy amd

 

[dmferrett]

I don't so desperately want to see anything and just stating facts. Rather harsh comment in truth.

Going from your own history, you paid £240 for a 7870 (Non XT version) and this card is twice as fast as that card was at launch and then some, so taking into account, launch over launch, the 780Ti appears great value over a pair of launch 7870's

But the 780 ti will get absolutely destroyed/raped in performance terms and value by 2x7950's. 300-350 pounds!!! 120-140fps in BF4 Full Ultra 4xmsaa...

 

[Gregster]

But the 780 ti will get absolutely destroyed/raped in performance terms and value by 2x7950's. 300-350 pounds!!! 120-140fps in BF4 Full Ultra 4xmsaa...

I don't care loooooooooool, why so defensive? Nvidia take the crown back from the 290X and people get all narky and defensive.

I have been called desperate and have a lack of understanding plain English but what have I said that is wrong?

You are spot on with 7950's btw. Me and Matt had a bit of a battle with my Titan Vs his 7950's and he raped me easily. Great value at half the cost.

For the cost conscious, there is always a cheaper choice. For the people who want the balls out fastest, there is always a choice. I don't get the slating though. Do people who own a Ford Mondeo jump into a Buggati thread and start bleating on about seat space and fuel economy?

 

[Addicted]

The 780ti is far more mature in terms of its constituents than the 290x, it is afterall a gaming Titan effectively with faster vram and the same 384 bit bus running a slight core bump. It also uses the titan cooler, it has a larger foot print to allow more heat dispersion, it has a greater transistor count and cost a 160 more.

I'm sorry but it's nothing like a Titan, the Titan is basically an entry level computing card. If you're going to try and bash the 290x, at least get some facts right

The Titan is still a fantastic card imo (not in regards to price at all of course, if you are a gamer only), it's not just about GPU gaming performance when you consider what else it can do, I'm no fanboy of either side, but have ran AMD cards the past few series'.

 

[humbug]

I don't care loooooooooool, why so defensive? Nvidia take the crown back from the 290X and people get all narky and defensive.

I have been called desperate and have a lack of understanding plain English but what have I said that is wrong?

You are spot on with 7950's btw. Me and Matt had a bit of a battle with my Titan Vs his 7950's and he raped me easily. Great value at half the cost.

For the cost conscious, there is always a cheaper choice. For the people who want the balls out fastest, there is always a choice. I don't get the slating though. Do people who own a Ford Mondeo jump into a Buggati thread and start bleating on about seat space and fuel economy?

"For the people who want the balls out fastest" its the 7950's

"Me and Matt had a bit of a battle with my Titan Vs his 7950's and he raped me easily"

 

[dmferrett]

The 780ti is an amazing card, just wish it was more affordable.

 

[555BUK]

The thing with the 780 TI is that it is (clearly) the fastest GPU on the planet. Being No1 would enable people to forgive it running hot and noisy, and perhaps for being a bit pricey too, but it actually runs cooler and quieter than AMD's slower equivalents. NVidia has also allowed third parties to provide non-ref coolers almost immediately after launch for those who want to overclock things further or just plain reduce the noise.

Why is that NVidia throttles at 80-83deg and AMD at 95deg? Remember that the stock NVidia cooler can maintain temps at or below 80deg. How hard would AMD's cooler have to work and how much would it SCREAM if trying to maintain the same temps? With both 290's and 780's built on the same process and having similar transistor counts it is strange that one sets the safety threshold at 80-83 whilst the other is 95. Maybe AMD had to set this threshold so high to make it's cooler "quiet"? Surely the lifespan will be reduced at these temps, whatever AMD says.

X-fired and SLI'd cheaper cards are always an option but it's like buying two cheap motor cars vs one expensive car. The cheaper cars combined speed will be faster, but who has the better car and bigger e-peen?

 

[uksoldierboy]

It is the 780Ti OC that has taken the crown off AMD?

I think when both are overclocked, and drivers on both sides have matured, it'll be a close fought battle as to what's the quickest.

Probably leaving the choice between them down to individual games that your looking at playing and at what res, rather than saying "this is the outright fastest card, get in the world, get this."

Which is all good for us the consumers.

 

[DeathofRats]

Interesting times ahead...

must be more patient, must be more patient, must be more patient, must.....

the wait is bloody KILLING me.

 

[uksoldierboy]

Why is that NVidia throttles at 80-83deg and AMD at 95deg? Remember that the stock NVidia cooler can maintain temps at or below 80deg. How hard would AMD's cooler have to work and how much would it SCREAM if trying to maintain the same temps? With both 290's and 780's built on the same process and having similar transistor counts it is strange that one sets the safety threshold at 80-83 whilst the other is 95. Maybe AMD had to set this threshold so high to make it's cooler "quiet"? Surely the lifespan will be reduced at these temps, whatever AMD says.

Around 55% fan keeps my temps around the 75-80c, @1100/1635, it's not loud at all IMHO while gaming with my db reader reporting 30db in the center of my desk.