The vast majority of coffee drinkers are addicted to it. Do you have an issue with those people drinking coffee in public?
Should e-cigarettes be banned from public places?
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The vast majority of coffee drinkers are addicted to it. Do you have an issue with those people drinking coffee in public?
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No they shouldn't be banned, it's ridiculous.
It's a shame that they didn't become common place before the smoking ban. It's been too long for many people to just accept that they are back (even though they aren't)
No, they shouldn't be banned just because some people see it as smoking. As for having to check if they are e-cigs or not, well there's no smell for a start. It would be like banning roll-ups in case there's not just tobacco in there.
No, they shouldn't be banned just because some people see it as smoking. As for having to check if they are e-cigs or not, well there's no smell for a start. It would be like banning roll-ups in case there's not just tobacco in there.
I think they (anti-smoking brigade, tobacco/pharmaceutical companies and such) are desperately trying to find something negative to say about them, though at the moment this is all they have.
I can see the government trying to find a way to tax it beyond VAT. They have used the health reason for decades on smoking and now it's being replaced by something safe. I don't know the figures but I'd say I see about 1 vaper to every 2 smokers these days so about a third. That's some tax loss.
Will be the same once electric cars start to become the norm. Taxing on emissions won't really work.
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Too bloody right. They are the only ones who could afford to pay for medical classification of their products (even though the MHRA have categorically stated that they don't see ecigs as a medical device). So it effectively kills the existing market (maybe one or two existing companies could survive, but barely) and leaves it open for the tobacco giants to set up their brand new stalls, extorting users and destroying the market.
No chance the ratio is that close. 1 vaper to every 15/20 smokers is still a pretty conservative guess.
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I really think you need to find a better way to occupy your time. People display their addictions all the time, and the e-cigs do not result in passive smoking, so who cares. It's better than smoking real fags, surely!
My girlfriends mother uses one, and she is glued to the thing. Smoking it the other night in a restaurant, always got her hand around it. I think they should be at least discouraged from use indoors. I think its kind of rude in a way, and very depressing to see her having to hold it all the time.
I don't get where these people are coming from. From where is all this negative media being driven?
I think most normal people accept the benefits of ecigs, and the only real rub seems to be that the anti-socialisation of smoking has been so effective that ecigs have been caught up in it... which is stupid. I'm not normally one for conspiracy theories, but seeing the heavy opposition to vaping, with no real logical arguments againts it, it feels like there must be some malign force at work.
I think most normal people accept the benefits of ecigs, and the only real rub seems to be that the anti-socialisation of smoking has been so effective that ecigs have been caught up in it... which is stupid. I'm not normally one for conspiracy theories, but seeing the heavy opposition to vaping, with no real logical arguments againts it, it feels like there must be some malign force at work.
Better than having to watch her light up all the time though surely?
OH NO! HOLY CRAP - we should probably ban people from eating fast food or drinking in public too. I've often felt the need to scarf down a cheeseburger when I see somebody in a McDonalds chowing down on a Big Mac or chugging a beer outside a pub. That means that those people doing those things are potentially encouraging me to make life choices which are not necessarily the best for my health!
Are we really that ****ing retarded that we can't make our own decisions and have to be legislated at because we cannot be trusted to make the right decisions?
I'm so glad you're here.
I wouldn't vape in a restaurant to be fair. I think there is a certain etiquette to it. You don't vape in front of clients, in meetings, or where people are eating. It's just common sense. If you wouldn't fart there, don't vape there.
Totally agree. Like any addiction it can come across as rather pathetic if it's always there. It's like a child holding a blanket all the time or sucking its thumb.
Fair enough. Agreed on all counts.
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This is what a vaporizer looks like... Does this really look like a cig. How will this bloody glamorise smoking..
