*** The Official Playstation 4 (PS4) Thread ***

I think within 12-18 months you'll see the vast majority of games (on either console) running at 1080p. The PS4 versions will probably look better, but games on either system will look more than good enough IMO.

The Xbox One GPU has only half the pixel fill-rate of PS4 so I doubt it, it will likely stay 720P upscaled unless PS4's GPU is being extremely under-utilised right now.

IMO developers won't go to any lengths to add extra effects to make the PS4 version 'look better', they will just develop on Xbox One at 720P and then use the extra GPU power of PS4 to turn up the resolution/AA etc as we have seen so far.

There has been a lot said about ESRAM but the elephant in the room is the GPU, it always has been ESRAM simply served as a distraction.
 
Have a look on YouTube for "Hitler Reacts to PS4 Red Line of Death" :D It's hilarious. Cannot link because it's got swearies.
 
The Xbox One GPU has only half the pixel fill-rate of PS4 so I doubt it, it will likely stay 720P upscaled unless PS4's GPU is being extremely under-utilised right now.

Is that why there are more games at 1080p on the Xbox One than are running below it?

Pointless argument anyway. We'll find out over the next few years.
 
Running at 1080p and running at 1080p with a full and detailed world are the differences. Anything can be run at 1080p but detail levels and effects will need to be sacrificed to maintain a decent FPS.

The PS4 has more GPU grunt and more bandwidth so it is more capable of more detailed textures and effects whilst maintaining the 1080p target.

No matter how good the devs get the XBox one will always be at a disadvantage to the PS4 unless they release a hardware update. It's how the devs decide to use this advantage that will make the difference.
 
guys what are the chances of seeing a plex or xbmc app on the ps4 consoles, not just through dlna but a proper app
 
Is that why there are more games at 1080p on the Xbox One than are running below it?

Pointless argument anyway. We'll find out over the next few years.

Are you referring to rendered at 1080p or are you using the Microsoft PR line of rendered 720p and upscaled to 1080p? Because if its the latter you have even less credibility than I thought, which impressive in itself.
 
Is that why there are more games at 1080p on the Xbox One than are running below it?

Pointless argument anyway. We'll find out over the next few years.

Forza 5 for example is using a forward renderer. Not very system intensive but it means that stuff like dynamic shadows and lighting is not possible.

Hopefully stuff like that doesn't become the norm as it went the way of the dodo years ago.
 
Forza 5 for example is using a forward renderer. Not very system intensive but it means that stuff like dynamic shadows and lighting is not possible.

Hopefully stuff like that doesn't become the norm as it went the way of the dodo years ago.

It won't. Digital Foundry say in their Killzone: Shadow Fall analysis -

the materials-based deferred renderer seamlessly blends pre-computed and real-time dynamic lighting using techniques that will quickly becoming [sic] the standard on next-gen console
 
Just popped into town and altered my pre-order, changed Knack for Lego Marvel. For some reason I think Knack being a first party title will turn up on PS+ at some point, if not I'll pick it up when it's a little cheaper.
 
Ive preorded my ps4 along with kill zone in-store at game, is it possible for me to just pick up battlefield 4 as well at the midnight launch even though i haven't preordered it ?
 
I'm going to pick up a copy of Battle Field 4 along side FIFA '14 :).

So, Red controller, Blue controller, PlayStation 4, Vertical Stand, FIFA 14, BattleField 4 now I need to decide on a headset & I'm thinking about getting the camera too.
 
Looks like my amazon preorder has been upgraded to the gamer pack! Just took a little longer to switch.

The failures are becoming a bit of a concern, but I'm happy to put that down to the fact people are more likely to complain than the people who are happy and busy playing on their consoles.
 
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ms fan? hoax? i can fake a review if i wanted....why stup*d americans can't? :p

It'd more difficult to call them fakes when they have the Amazon Verified Purchase moniker next to them. You have to have bought the PS4 in order to review it so it just seems odd that you'd buy a PS4 and then **** it off in a review. But as they say, there's nowt as queer as folk.
 
It is a little concerning and should mine arrive useless it will be a lot of heartache and hassle...but at least it's well inside the warranty :p
 
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