I suspect the AA have a bit of petrol and diesel handy, or could go get you some in minutes?It does exactly the same as what happens when you run out of petrol on the motorway, surely
That Tesla S is incredible....
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Still a load of rubbish, lots of time does not mean lots of miles. How many people do you thhink do more than 200 miles, let alone 250+.
And smart car does not mean lots of time anyway, ppeople buy cars as fashion accesories.
A superchharger is 200miles in 30mins. So no, you dont need 1hr + stops.
You can get a dual charger at home, if you want faster charging whiich is 58miles per hour, normal charger is 29miles.
And how many people stay at home less than 5 or 10 hours a day?
Rnage extender hw about price, size, yes green and well its pointless when you have almost 300mile range. .
As for what happens if you run out of juice, leaf anyway has a free towing service(or at least nuse to). Not sure what aa polcies etc state. I imagine theyll just tow you, depending what your level is.
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My brain can't deal with this influx of electric cars. 
I know its good for the environment, good for peoples health, good for our wallets and so on, but... Internal combustion is just... Well you can't replace that raw mechanical sound that petrolheads love.
I know its good for the environment, good for peoples health, good for our wallets and so on, but... Internal combustion is just... Well you can't replace that raw mechanical sound that petrolheads love.
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The sound is irreplaceable, the oil is not though.
I do like the stuff Tesla make.
Slightly off topic, but still electric, things like the ZEOD-RC are only pushing our technology further, and bringing the electric car even closer to being much more use-able in the real world.
I do like the stuff Tesla make.
Slightly off topic, but still electric, things like the ZEOD-RC are only pushing our technology further, and bringing the electric car even closer to being much more use-able in the real world.
My brain can't deal with this influx of electric cars.
I know its good for the environment, good for peoples health, good for out wallets and so on, but... Internal combustion is just... Well you can't replace that raw mechanical sound that petrolheads love.
Eeing as most modern stuuff is high reving bean can, its no loss. Now if lumbering v8 growl was stiill common.
Saying that still prefer progress. Walking alongside traffic today and it stunk of fumes. Itll be so much nice when the majority are electric and so much quiter as well.
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Are we going to get your random-words-strung-together style of posting in here now as well as GD?
PROOF READ BEFORE YOU HIT SUBMIT!
Otherwise it just looks ridiculous and undermines any point you may or my nt haaaaaaaave hd.
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Did it have black wheels? He loves those!
I think you could get some black spray paint, sure that would work. I'd also remove the 535i badge and puts some MMMMM's on it.
My brain can't deal with this influx of electric cars.
I know its good for the environment, good for peoples health, good for our wallets and so on, but... Internal combustion is just... Well you can't replace that raw mechanical sound that petrolheads love.
You can, quite easily. It'll be generated by some electronics and speakers, but you can have an EV make the same sound.
But it's not really just the sound. There's something special about an engine powered by explosions and the sound is a sensory reminder of that. It's a spectacular, glorious opera, a special occasion every time. You could hang a speaker or two on a lampost and have it sound like any car you like, but it wouldn't stir you the same way - it's not just about the sound.
Nice marketing ploy. Essentially, Tesla are betting on (a) their customers doing low mileage and (b) an immense drop in battery prices over the next few years.
Maybe they'll be right. Maybe they'll go bankrupt.
Also, what does the warranty actually cover? Anything other than total failure? What if you use it enough to bring the maximum charge down from 85KWh to 40KWh? Would that be covered?
Look at cost/year even if the warranty applies. 85KWh battery is in the region of $42500, which is $6000 a year in battery costs alone if the costs don't drop.
I hope Tesla's extremely optimistic predictions about batteries ~5 years from now turn out to be true. But I wouldn't bet any significant money on it.
£50k?! Is that it! I was expecting well over double that. Looking forward to seeing these in person!
At currently quoted prices, the battery alone costs about £30K. Tesla must be making about a shilling profit per car.
It would be OK if the false claims about running costs aren't a major focus of almost all coverage of EVs (for example, the very first line of this thread).
It's an almost universal deception, so it's not really OK to object to the relevance of objecting to the deception.
I agree that it wouldn't necessarily be relevant to a Tesla S because it does stand up on a fair comparison to similarly priced ICEVs (better in some ways, worse in others), but it is relevant because it's made relevant by almost all references to the Tesla S (and EVs in general).
Tesla warranty is understood to cover a greater than 30% decline in capacity over the 8 year period so going from 85kwH to 40kwH would get a replacement under warranty, though I wonder if they would replace with a new battery or a used but less than 30% decline battery.
There are about 4-5 in Santa Barbara now I see regularly (they are numbered which helps lol). Most of our city parking lots have dedicated EV charging spots too which is handy if you went the EV route. Also here its probably feasible to install solar to help charge the car which would be a pretty cool setup
There are about 4-5 in Santa Barbara now I see regularly (they are numbered which helps lol). Most of our city parking lots have dedicated EV charging spots too which is handy if you went the EV route. Also here its probably feasible to install solar to help charge the car which would be a pretty cool setup
Its an unlimiited warranty, the replacemnet will be as good or better than new.if it drops bellow 70%
Tesla have the gold standard of warrantys. You dont need to get the car serviced and the warranty remains intact, you dont need to follow the owners manual and the warranty stays intact, as they say unless an owner intentionaly destroys the pack it is covered ie. using it as target practice in the yard.
The prices will drop significantly and power storage increase massively. The new battery techs are likely to be online in 2017-2020. They are allready dozens proven in labs. And thats ignoring economy of scale and price drops for the batteries they have now.
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That certainly is a good warranty. Good enough to imply that Tesla are quite confident hardly anyone will have any reason to claim on it.
Unless you can foretell the future, you can't be sure of that.
But that has been said for a while now and they're not here. It is not the certainty you say it is. Remember the STAIR battery, for example?
I'd bet some money on at least one of the development projects hitting paydirt, but I wouldn't bet on when and I wouldn't call it a certainty.
I'd ignore that because it probably isn't true (the scale of production of current batteries is already very high) and may even be the reverse of true (a large increase in scale might increase the price of some of the raw materials since there is a limit to their supply).
Batteries aren't a brand new technology, almost certain to improve radically and rapidly. Given the amount of knowledge, time and money being applied to battery development, I think major improvements are very likely. But not certain and not in a known timeframe. We might just continue to get incremental improvements in what is already a mature technology...but we might get something like the change from Newcomen's steam engine to Watt's steam engine.
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I used to run a Scooby sti and would only get 190 miles to a tank if driven hard, 250 if like Miss Daisy. Sure, it was filled up in 3 mins and ready to go another couple of hundred miles, but this type of range is comparable and if they get it into affordable form its a game changer, I would have one, the torque would be awesome!
I ran an RS4 for 100k miles, those figures were normal. It is the filling that's the HUGE difference at the moment.
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Indeed
The point I was making was that the range this covers isnow comprable to most sports cars, just the charging part and price holding them back now 100k in an RS4, must have been jolly fun 