Is it Legal for a baby to ride pillion on a Motorcycle?

I'm not going to enter the car v bike v helmet v pedestrian debate that this will turn into but am not surprised that the Daily Mail jumped on this.

First line of the story
A father who has been taking his children to school in a wheelbarrow attached to a bicycle

The bike is clearly more than that and I assume professionally made given the name on the side.

http://bakfiets.nl/eng/

I do beleive however that all road users should have insurance and cyclists must be made to wear helemts and have fully functioning lights on their bikes.
 
but why should they be made to wear helmets ? in case you run one over you think the helmet will save his life?

Making it a requirement for children to wear helmets sure.

For adult's no
 
Tailgating, speed, lack of observation and pretty much everything else under the sun. It's usually preceded by a chat and some checks on the driver and the vehicle.

Aren't a lot of these incidents where a driver is breaking the law, but a quick chat is a more appropriate response than a prosecution?

Coming back to this particular case, it seems more like the policeman who pulled the guy over was doing on nothing more than 'that looks a bit dodgy'. I'm speculating, and even then not saying that I disagree with the policeman for doing that, but I sympathize with the guy for being annoyed about it.
 
but why should they be made to wear helmets ? in case you run one over you think the helmet will save his life?

Making it a requirement for children to wear helmets sure.

For adult's no

Example:

I'm driving along and a cyclist comes out of a side street and hits my front bumper or near side panel and goes over the bonnet hitting my windscreen even at a slow speed will cause them more harm than if they were not wearing a helmet. Sure if you are wearing a helmet and an HVG takes you out it isn't going to help at all, much like a seat-belt wont make any difference to a car driver in the same scenario.

As I said I'm not going to enter a debate just giving my tuppence worth. The roads can be a dangerous place for everybody and therefore precautions should be taken.
 
you are assuming the majority of accidents involve a head hitting something which they do not.
especially road accidents ,most of them the bike is either crushed under a car or the person is still standing on his bike
 
you are assuming the majority of accidents involve a head hitting something which they do not.
especially road accidents ,most of them the bike is either crushed under a car or the person is still standing on his bike

Is there really that level of assumption?

Scenario A: HGV wipes out cyclist. Helmet has no discernible benefit.
Scenario B: Cyclist turns into traffic and is hit by a car, falls off his bike, bangs his head on the kerb. Helmet stops severe head trauma.

This is not an unrealistic proposition, is it?
 
Even in scenario A, where a HGV collides with a cyclist, surely a helmet would prevent, or certainly reduce, the severity of head trauma as they went to ground like a sack of spuds.
 
Is there really that level of assumption?

Scenario A: HGV wipes out cyclist. Helmet has no discernible benefit.
Scenario B: Cyclist turns into traffic and is hit by a car, falls off his bike, bangs his head on the kerb. Helmet stops severe head trauma.

This is not an unrealistic proposition, is it?
It's not an unrealistic proposition that he sticks his hand out as he falls and does not bump his head on the kerb either.

Whilst it is possible a helmet could stop head trauma I still feel it should be a choice for a solo rider only responsible for his own safety.

I bet you would struggle to find a video of a cyclist flying head first off his bike
 
no one cares because its not popular to hate motor cycle riders.

even that description says "There is no seat belt which will keep the child tied to the seat (such as those present on bicycle seats) the mere presence of an adult on the front seat is enough to avoid the child moving forward"
 
I saw a whole family on a moped in Turkey, mum, dad & 2 kids with shopping.....not really much to do with the story but it was quite funny.
 
lol @ the comments

people commenting on stuff they don't understand as always ignorant daily mail readers should be shot.

the straps are not supposed to be tight........

granted the straps shouldnt be tight but neither are the helmets supposed to be so far back on the head that the forehead is completely exposed to a frontal impact.

(as a cyclist and someone that used to fit cycle helmets for a living)
 
GIVI S650 Universal Baby Ride

How can this be a "Baby Ride" when it clearly states "children 5-8".

This sort of thing drives my OCD mental !!!!
 
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