Clare's law

The scheme doesn't work like a lot of people are assuming. People with a DV history won't automatically have the information disclosed. This is in the link I posted above.

“Under the scheme women will have the right to ask the police whether a new or existing partner has a violent past. If police checks show that a person may be at risk of domestic violence from their partner, the police will consider disclosing the information.

The pilot will also look at how the police can proactively release information to protect a person from domestic violence where it is lawful, necessary and proportionate to do so“
 
It sounds essentially like a blacklist that is only for men and it is blacklist for men who are abusive to women when in a relationship. That sounds very sexist to me, they should create a list for women who have gone psycho on their boy friends and later on their husbands who have had half of their possessions and their children taken from them and are ordered to pay the woman a salary. Then men could know if a women had previously gone psycho in a relationship before having children with them, leading to less broken families. We could also have a list of abusive girl friends psychological and physical, those crazy controlling women. They deserve a list as well?

It would be ok if they only blacklisted real abuse cases but instead it will be run by feminists who think that even raising your hand to a woman is considered abuse and enough to get on to the list.

WoW! :eek:
You have some serious woman issues
 
WoW! :eek:
You have some serious woman issues

Mate, if you've been at the sharp end of a kitchen knife being held by psycho woman like i have then you'd be asking the same questions. I had to smash her hand against the wall before she dropped the knife, that would have got me on the list. Fortunately my experiences with my ex hasn't tainted all women for me but there has to be a balance.
 
The scheme doesn't work like a lot of people are assuming. People with a DV history won't automatically have the information disclosed. This is in the link I posted above.

Under the scheme women will have the right to ask

what about men?

or is it the case the police are never likley to deam a male at risk?
 
The scheme doesn't work like a lot of people are assuming. People with a DV history won't automatically have the information disclosed. This is in the link I posted above.

Unfortunately this is open to interpretation by the police. While it might start off sensible...... consider the very first case in which a women ends up being hit by a man she had checked, had a minor assault charge from a bar fight or something so the police didn't disclose it.

We'll get the, turned out he did have a record, police didn't disclose it, police get sued... followed by the police being far less sensible about when and when not to give out this information.

As with everything court cases/public support/newspaper hysteria will side with the women who gets hit when the information isn't disclosed rather than the men who have completely irrelevant information disclosed to the wrong person or for the wrong reasons.

What people don't think about when they enact laws is how they will get used/abused in the future.

Based on the discretion of the police to decide what to disclose then as soon as you have a couple cases go wrong, a couple of court cases, the police making these decisions will inevitably relax their criteria for fear of being sued.
 
Based on the discretion of the police to decide what to disclose then as soon as you have a couple cases go wrong, a couple of court cases, the police making these decisions will inevitably relax their criteria for fear of being sued.

I don't think that'll be an issue personally due to the way the enacting legislation is written (quoted from the blog link earlier):

The legal basis is in s24 Crime and Security Act 2010. This creates a ‘Domestic Violence Protection Order’ that can be issued by a high ranking police officer if the officer has ‘reasonable grounds for believing that a perpetrator has used or threatened violence towards the victim and the victim is at risk of future violent behaviour‘.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/17/crossheading/domestic-violence
 
I don't know the details of this law but if one were to enquire about someone how far back into their past will the results go?
How does this sit with the rehabilitaiton of offenders act?
 
tefal, it's not as if the police would ever keep records of innocent people.

Oh...wait... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...t-people-still-being-collected-by-police.html

My bad.

Surely they'd never make a mistake though.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...nsation-for-police-taser-mistake-8445260.html

Oops.

They definitely don't have grudges and are impartial.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-harassment-of-forensic-graduate-8721268.html

This ain't going well for me. At least they came out looking brilliant over hillsbrough though. Didn't fabricate any evidence there!
 
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