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Maxwell - Shipping By March 2014

^^ I was saying I'm happy with the current performance, I'm @ 1440P and def don't feel I need any more performance than a single 290X. Likewise the 290, 780 and 780ti are all monsters.

If 2014 can bring the same performance but less power use and lower heat and temps, I'll be happy with that.
 
^^ I was saying I'm happy with the current performance, I'm @ 1440P and def don't feel I need any more performance than a single 290X. Likewise the 290, 780 and 780ti are all monsters.

If 2014 can bring the same performance but less power use and lower heat and temps, I'll be happy with that.

I would not be happy with that at all. I want to buy today's high end performance at the mid to high end prices or less. The slower hardware moves on the longer it takes for a given performance improvement to come down in the price range.
 
Been looking around this morning and found this, which is a good read.
.... but really interesting gets the refresh, probably waiting for tsmc's finfets. then 64 bit arm cores developed by nv gets integrated on the same die. they can coherently access the common l3 cache. the big thing is that they will be used by the graphics driver to offload some heavy lifting from the system cpu. basically most part of the driver will be running on the gpu itself! nvidia expects this will give them at least the same speed up as amd will get from mantle, but without using a new api with straight dx11 or opengl code! and it will also help with the new cuda version for maxwell, where one can access both gpu as well as cpu cores seamlessly.

http://pastebin.com/jm93g3YG
I think thats a bit of stretch, it seem clear that integration of arm cores is primarily with thought for the compute market. That they could run part of their driver on it feels like a knee jerk response. Interested to see how it could pan out however.
 
I think thats a bit of stretch, it seem clear that integration of arm cores is primarily with thought for the compute market. That they could run part of their driver on it feels like a knee jerk response. Interested to see how it could pan out however.

I don't claim to be overly knowledgeable on what makes a GPU tick but that bit stuck out for me. Seeing a processor working alongside the GPU would make for some interesting reading.
 
I would not be happy with that at all. I want to buy today's high end performance at the mid to high end prices or less. The slower hardware moves on the longer it takes for a given performance improvement to come down in the price range.

I didn't mention prices, I'm assuming the next mid-range cards will give about what our current high end cards give performance wise at lower power consumption, that's exactly what I want. 290X is more than enough performance for me.

So using the 6XXX to 7XXX gen as an example, we had the HD 6970, replaced in performance by HD 7850/70 at much lower power use / price.

So whatever replaces the 290X / GTX 780ti performance level at lower power consumption will be ideal for me.
 
That is pretty much the point though, the first 20nm cards likely from both AMD/Nvidia, will be the 7970/680gtx replacement, and they should offer 290/780ti performance....... but they'll be the highest end 20nm cards available, and likely can beat the 290x/780ti in performance.

When Nvidia does that....... they usually price it at £500 and call it the high end even if it's not. AMD I have higher hopes for and a track record of not being such ****'s.

I shouldn't say first, I'll say, first performance oriented parts. The first 20nm parts might well be low/lower midrange(7770/7870 rather than 7970(as both would be lower/upper midrange), the first performance parts will likely be a 7970/680gtx sized core on 20nm and I'm not too optimistic about pricing till the actual high end comes out to make those cards look decidedly midrange.
 
I didn't mention prices, I'm assuming the next mid-range cards will give about what our current high end cards give performance wise at lower power consumption, that's exactly what I want. 290X is more than enough performance for me.

So using the 6XXX to 7XXX gen as an example, we had the HD 6970, replaced in performance by HD 7850/70 at much lower power use / price.

So whatever replaces the 290X / GTX 780ti performance level at lower power consumption will be ideal for me.

Ahh i thought you were saying all you wanted was performance to stay the same as long as they dropped in power.
 
Do you reckon 1 x Maxwell with 6GB RAM will out-perform 2 x 680 GTX 2GB cards at 5760 x 1080p?

I'd imagine the GTX680 tier replacement will slightly outperform GTX680 SLI depending on final specs - will also have less VRAM considerations with multi-monitor. The full fat maxwell should definitely be quite a bit faster.
 
GeForce GTX 800M series
Moving forward to more interesting models, we have:

GeForce GTX 880M (N15E-GX-A2),
GeForce GTX 870M (N15P-GT),
GeForce GTX 860M (N15P-GX)
The GTX 880M would be offered with 8GB memory, although it is not clear if this refers to SLI configuration or not. Same with GTX 870M which is advertised with 6GB frame buffer. Even the GTX 860M would have 4GB ram.

If this is true, that means we will definitely be seeing Maxwell on 8GB or more at desktop level.

...3GB is enough for 1080 though so it's ok... /sarc :D
 
Be suprised if any of those mobile GPUs are maxwell based. nVidia usually do atleast one rebadged mobile lineup on the old core i.e. my GTX260m is actually a G92 core (basically a 1GB 9800GT) and my GTX675M is based on Fermi (basically a 2GB GTX560).
 
780ti is just a bit of a top up to keep AMD from taking the crown really, I'll be unsuprised if desktop maxwell don't start arriving sooner than later as 20nm is ramping up with SoCs, etc. moving into volume production.
 
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