***The Vapers Lounge***

[RedMogg]

1.5ohm MicroCoil & Medical Gauze wick in the Pulse-G Clone + JM22 in 18650 mode = 25mins to vaping happiness

(Left the chamber Reducer installed - then removed to fill as it's nigh on impossible otherwise, now reinstated)
Taste, warmth & silky vapour from Scope's Peach - lovely!

(will add pics when Imgur is not playing silly buggers)

 

[PardonTheWait]

Just got home to find my Aspire Maxi BDC clearos are here.

Filled one up with Mystic Cola about ten minutes ago and as a very very first impression, I'm really impressed.

Will grab some spare heads soon and see how I go. Mostly want them for work and holiday.

 

[PapaLazaru]

Watched some youtube vids to get all clued up on how these vaping kits work. So I've just joined the vaping crowd. Bought the EVOD starter kit and a handful of 10ml flavoured juices from myepack. It was just over £40 so qualifies for free shipping.

Welcome to the club. You are just about to start a very satisfying, expensive but fun hobby.

 

[Merlin5]

Welcome to the club. You are just about to start a very satisfying, expensive but fun hobby.

Thanks. I'm just hoping it's enough to get me to completely quit analogues.

I spend just under £8 on 25g of tobacco every week to week and a half. I think that's equivalent to about 40 standard cigarettes. Apparently, 5m of juice is equivalent to about 2 and a half packs or 50 cigarettes. So each 10ml bottle I bought is equivalent to about 100 cigarettes, way more than I'd smoke in two weeks. So at less than £3 for a 10ml bottle, it should be a lot cheaper to vape. I'm weird in that I've trained myself to not smoke during the day when I'm out of the house, but I crave nicotine by the the evening. So, I can make tobacco or juice last longer.

 

[Devrij]

Ah now it doesn't have to be expensive. Neither does using a computer though, and most of us here know how that goes when you decide to start tinkering!

When you chase the best kit, you'll spend more money, but I know plenty of people happily puffing away on clearos screwed onto ego batts.

You'll probably go through about 2ml of liquid per day from how you smoke. I tend to chain vape in the evenings and barely vape at all at work (except for breaks). You just find your rhythm eventually.

 

[RedMogg]

Whereas I'm a retired, clumsy bugger raising a young family - therefore my chances to vape during the day are greater as well as needing the de-stressing evening chain vape... So I'll go through 5ml per day; more if I do something silly like grab the Pulse-G by the tank and watch the contents escape as the glass slides up & over the 2 O-rings...

 

[Merlin5]

You'll probably go through about 2ml of liquid per day from how you smoke. I tend to chain vape in the evenings and barely vape at all at work (except for breaks). You just find your rhythm eventually.

If 2ml is equivalent to a packet of cigarettes, I never smoke that much nicotine in a day. I'm hoping the nicotine hit I get from a couple of draws on the evod will give me that same relaxed head to toe rush I get from my first normal cigarette of the day. If it doesn't, I'll have to increase the strength otherwise yes, I will be vaping more.

 

[RedMogg]

If 2ml is equivalent to a packet of cigarettes, I never smoke that much nicotine in a day. I'm hoping the nicotine hit I get from a couple of draws on the evod will give me that same relaxed head to toe rush I get from my first normal cigarette of the day. If it doesn't, I'll have to increase the strength otherwise yes, I will be vaping more.

If you don't get that same "rush" from every single cigarette you smoke, then don't expect to from Vaping.
Sure, you can chase it all you like - I did the same with Morphine a few years ago, soon after my spinal injury. You'll end up very quickly building a tolerance to the higher Nicotine content and require an increasingly stronger "hit" for the same satisfaction - it's called (in certain circles) "Chasing the Dragon" and is an unwise attitude to approach Vaping, let alone other Vices...

To give you an example: to start with, 10mg per day of MST (slow release Morphine tablet) over 2 years developed into a 240mg of Oramorph per 24 hours, dependency. It took 9 weeks to get through the withdrawal symptoms when I Cold Turkey (against the advice of my Pain Specialist) and 6 years later, I'm still insomniac, with short term memory and Addiction issues.

... Other than through vaping, I've found smoking harder to quit than Morphine. Explains a lot.

 

[Allnamestaken]

If you don't get that same "rush" from every single cigarette you smoke, then don't expect to from Vaping.
Sure, you can chase it all you like - I did the same with Morphine a few years ago, soon after my spinal injury. You'll end up very quickly building a tolerance to the higher Nicotine content and require an increasingly stronger "hit" for the same satisfaction - it's called (in certain circles) "Chasing the Dragon" and is an unwise attitude to approach Vaping, let alone other Vices...

To give you an example: to start with, 10mg per day of MST (slow release Morphine tablet) over 2 years developed into a 240mg of Oramorph per 24 hours, dependency. It took 9 weeks to get through the withdrawal symptoms when I Cold Turkey (against the advice of my Pain Specialist) and 6 years later, I'm still insomniac, with short term memory and Addiction issues.

... Other than through vaping, I've found smoking harder to quit than Morphine. Explains a lot.

<3

 

[d_brennen]

Merlin5, expect insomnia, soar throat, cough, phlegm etc. Some people don't suffer at all, some really badly. You need to drink a bit more water than before too, but that's no bad thing because most people neglect hydrating.

Welcome to the mad house

 

[j.col]

Also i find that nicotine is not delivered to your bloodstream as quickly as analogues, so i dont get that light headed feeling on my first vape in the morning.
I will also go through about 3ml a day.
I know some vapers that like a strong juice first thing in the morning eg. 18 or 24mg.
Then the rest of the day happily vape 12mg.

also i found the best way for me was (as vaping is slightly different to smoking)
i smoked during the day and vaped in the evenings for a week, then at the weekend i stopped the analogues completely.
Also while drawing on an e-cig, its best to take long slow pulls

 

[Twirlywoos]

My "oh so scientific formula for tonight":

Temon + Microstick

3/4 wrap 0.2mm Kanthal (1.3 Ohms)

+

18mg AVE PG Hype


*

4.2V Battery fresh of the charger

=

 

[Merlin5]

If you don't get that same "rush" from every single cigarette you smoke, then don't expect to from Vaping.

Well, the first cigarette I smoke in the morning gives me a big rush that I crave which keeps me going for ages, enough that I can then get on with things without thinking about cigarettes for hours, like when I leave the house to go to work. When I haven't smoked one again for a few hours, then it's the same as the first one of the day, a big rush making me feel relaxed and satisfied. Other than that, subsequent cigarettes are more a matter of habit with smaller nicotine craving. That's all I want from the EVOD. I don't want to be constantly using it. Just in the morning, and the equivalent of a few rollups at night. I'll see how I go with the 18 and 24mg I ordered. They might be perfect, too strong or too weak.

But I'm currently avoiding rollups, haven't had one today. Dying for one tbh. But I'm vaping on this crappy Nicolite e-cig, which does just enough to take the edge off the craving but giving me no sense of enjoyment or fulfillment.

Merlin5, expect insomnia, soar throat, cough, phlegm etc. Some people don't suffer at all, some really badly. You need to drink a bit more water than before too, but that's no bad thing because most people neglect hydrating.

Welcome to the mad house

Ah, ok, I'll definitely drink more then.
Insomnia? Why might it do that out of interest?

 

[d_brennen]

Dunno, there is more than nicotine in tobacco though, and you are coming off a substance you are "dependent" on (how ever you like to put it ) for a different one, so anything is possible. I know other vapers who had really bad sleep for a week or two or more of being clean, and lots more that don't, so YMMV

e: The cough is probably your throat being dried out by PG, and your body cleaning out the rubbish in your lungs

 

[Merlin5]

Also i find that nicotine is not delivered to your bloodstream as quickly as analogues, so i dont get that light headed feeling on my first vape in the morning.
I will also go through about 3ml a day.
I know some vapers that like a strong juice first thing in the morning eg. 18 or 24mg.
Then the rest of the day happily vape 12mg.

also i found the best way for me was (as vaping is slightly different to smoking)
i smoked during the day and vaped in the evenings for a week, then at the weekend i stopped the analogues completely.
Also while drawing on an e-cig, its best to take long slow pulls

Hmm, that's a bit worrying. That light headed feeling is what I like and need from analogues. Maybe higher strengths 24mg or 36mg juice can deliver that? Dammit, I want my kit to arrive so I can test it I'm trying to track my delivery on royal mail but it still says info on my item not available online yet. Maybe it'll come tomorrow, or Thursday.

 

[Twirlywoos]

But I'm vaping on this crappy Nicolite e-cig, which does just enough to take the edge off the craving but giving me no sense of enjoyment or fulfillment.

Persist and experiment you'll get it your nicotine satisfaction

It took me a while getting to where I am now but I kind of was left in the dark when I started vaping. The vapers here will recommend you decent stuff based on experience.

When you say "no sense of enjoyment or fulfilment" what do you mean?
Are you not getting throat hit, nicotine rush, satisfactory draw when you inhale that you normally get with cigarettes?

 

[Merlin5]

Dunno, there is more than nicotine in tobacco though, and you are coming off a substance you are "dependent" on (how ever you like to put it ) for a different one, so anything is possible. I know other vapers who had really bad sleep for a week or two or more of being clean, and lots more that don't, so YMMV

e: The cough is probably your throat being dried out by PG, and your body cleaning out the rubbish in your lungs

I'm a bit worried at the moment tbh. The left side (top surface) of my tongue looks just like geographic tongue, with red patches where the papillae have disappeared. I put it down to letting rollup cigs hang out the left side of my mouth burning away at the top layer of my tongue. Went to my doctor who isn't overly worried (and didn't mention geographic tongue) but is referring me to a specialist clinic at chase farm hospital to check it out, just in case it's a pre cursor to anything carcinogenic. Might have to have a tongue biopsy.

 

[Merlin5]

Persist and experiment you'll get it your nicotine satisfaction

It took me a while getting to where I am now but I kind of was left in the dark when I started vaping. The vapers here will recommend you decent stuff based on experience.

When you say "no sense of enjoyment or fulfilment" what do you mean?
Are you not getting throat hit, nicotine rush, satisfactory draw when you inhale that you normally get with cigarettes?

Well when I roll a tobacco cigarette and draw on it, I get a good throat hit, but importantly, I get a big nicotine rush, meaning, it makes me feel really relaxed, light headed from head to toe, almost sleepy. The e-cig gives a decent throat hit and draw, but the nicotine hit doesn't compare to the rollup, it's just weak, doesn't go to my head as such and not giving me that full on buzz I need. I'm having to constantly inhale on it, whereas with a rollup, I can smoke one and won't need another for a while. I think I need a bigger amount of nicotine to hit me at once instead of less nicotine spread out over hours.


I'm also missing the flavour and smell of my rollups.

 

[Twirlywoos]

I'm a bit worried at the moment tbh. The left side (top surface) of my tongue looks just like geographic tongue, with red patches where the papillae have disappeared. I put it down to letting rollup cigs hang out the left side of my mouth burning away at the top layer of my tongue. Went to my doctor who isn't overly worried (and didn't mention geographic tongue) but is referring me to a specialist clinic at chase farm hospital to check it out, just in case it's a pre cursor to anything carcinogenic. Might have to have a tongue biopsy.

Hope it doesn't come to that.

Hopefully a higher nicotine strength will solve your craving. 24mg is my limit, anything above that and I can't stand it.

I don't vape tobacco flavours regularly but I think Wazz-1 does, so I hope he or someone else can recommend the best ones.

From what I've noticed however, people like the tobacco stuff from here:

http://www.houseofliquid.com/

or

http://www.triphammer.co.uk/shop/4577805170/TOBACCO-ELIQUID

 

[Merlin5]

Hope it doesn't come to that.

Hopefully a higher nicotine strength will solve your craving. 24mg is my limit, anything above that and I can't stand it.

I don't vape tobacco flavours regularly but I think Wazz-1 does, so I hope he or someone else can recommend the best ones.

From what I've noticed however, people like the tobacco stuff from here:

http://www.houseofliquid.com/

or

http://www.triphammer.co.uk/shop/4577805170/TOBACCO-ELIQUID

Thanks, will have a peruse of those sites.

Well I smoke Cutter's Choice tobacco and I read an old post by someone on the e-cigarette-forum who said, ""I smoke Cutter's Choice, finally got my first kit today, ordered 36 mg BM2 RY4, seems to hit the spot vapour and taste-wise."
Maybe 36mg is what I might need, but I'll only know that once I've tried the 18 and 24mg when they arrive. Do you know anything about or where to get this BM2 RY4 juice? Sounds good, if that guy means it mimics the taste of Cutter Choice.