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When you're in a job that's nothing to do with the service industry, ie. a profession, time is not a factor and there no such thing as 'overtime' paid or otherwise. You have a job to do and you need to get on and do it!

If you don't want to do overtime you need to learn how to time manage
 
chief barker said:
Yeah what it that?

I could never understand why people do it?

Peer pressure?,fear of losing your job? or is it that companies are so understaffed that they expect people to go past their time to finish work off?

Bonkers!.
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robgmun said:
When you're in a job that's nothing to do with the service industry, ie. a profession, time is not a factor and there no such thing as 'overtime' paid or otherwise. You have a job to do and you need to get on and do it!

If you don't want to do overtime you need to learn how to time manage
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This man is right! When you are a working professional, you work to get the job done and not simply "clock-out" if its not finished. Anyone stating that they refuse to work past their "hours" even if a time critical bit of work isn't finished is either in unskilled labour or rubbish at their job.
 
And working unpaid dents into your hourly rate and if not kept in check may actually result in people working under the minimum wage especially if it's regular. Folks should do the maths.

You provide a service and the companies pay you for providing a service.
 
zpos said:
And working unpaid dents into your hourly rate and if not kept in check may actually result in people working under the minimum wage especially if it's regular. Folks should do the maths.

You provide a service and the companies pay you for providing a service.
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Yeah, if you have to do long hours you're either crap at your job or being ripped off or got nothing better to do and making up work.
 
Any chance they could at least give her a working reference ?(not a negative one?) so she can get in another practice firm and just disguise the 6 weeks as work experience/temp role?

At least something positive would come out of it...
 
Slam62 said:
Yeah, if you have to do long hours you're either crap at your job or being ripped off or got nothing better to do and making up work.
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Or none of the above. Sometimes things just take a lot longer than the time allotted and people should always be renumerated for their time. They're not working out of the goodness of their own hearts and companies can afford to pay them. It's a bit different if you're a sole trader / company owner, but then it's your own prerogative and not an expectation.

Any manager who expects their staff to work without being paid is a bad manager.
 
robgmun said:
If you don't want to do overtime you need to learn how to time manage
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What a load of rubbish.
No amount of time management is going to turn 60 hours work into 40 is it ?

I don't mind doing an odd 30 minutes or hour here and there but people who consistently do 2 hours overtime are being taken for mugs.
What is a salary nowadays an excuse for en employer to force you to do overtime without pay ? I think not. but it seems to be the case in every job I have seen, more so as your pay and responsibilities increase. Myself I seldom work for free so it bothers me not I just don't do it if I can help it.
 
DogsBody said:
I don't mind doing an odd 30 minutes or hour here and there but people who consistently do 2 hours overtime are being taken for mugs.
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I do hate the fact that you get a job with a contract for, say, a 40h week for £x salary (I know, they're usually more specific!) and the first thing they want is for you to just do a few extra hours to get the job done!

Turn it around - you just need a few extra £ this week - and what would their response be!!!

That's why I loved IT contracting - you pay me £x/hour and when you mismanage the workload and need an extra 10h to get the job done the consequence is that the time has to be paid for.
 
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