Oh dear, the benefit scroungers are scared!

No1newts said:
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Irresponsible program by irresponsible media twisting things for ratings. For every scroungers there are a dozen who genuinely need support.

Nice to see the general UK population living up to its reputation as well educated decent people though.
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Undoubtedly, but the number of people on benefits who won't work is a problem.

As for the figures showing that its not worth working for some people my answer to that is that benefits must pay too much.
 
Caged said:
That's my point though. To the people faced with making the decision it's between whether they go out and work for £20 extra a week or not, because that's the outcome as far as it affects them. It doesn't matter if the money comes from the employer or the state, it's still money.

A lot of people are quick to say that in the same situation they would be straight out to work because they have some pride left or because if they cleaned a floor hard enough they can see the prospects of a promotion. The people in this situation can't pay bills with pride, and prospects aren't exactly something they are used to.

I'm not defending the situation at all, but if you're going to be angry then directing it at the people caught up in it is a waste of your breath.
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I'm not angry do much as despairing. I agree that there is a problem in the system but its catch 22, as if you remove the problem you remove benefits or morph them into something akin to food tokens but its not a very enlightened solution in modern times.

It's the situation which just frustrated me as there is no sensible solution to it.
 
86JR said:
What makes me laugh is people who say "99.9999999999999999%" genuinely need support, in order to justify the benefits system.

But then you look at a country that does not have a benefits system...where everyone is doing just fine!
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Obviously you lead a sheltered life, have a walk around the mean streets of Morocco and and tell me everyone is doing 'fine' LOL
 
Channel 4 does two things - comedy programmes and absolute banal rubbish. I stick with the sitcoms and panel shows and can't even watch the trailers for 'Watch obese teenage mums on benefits , who dress as plastic men watch big brother'
 
look at the title of the show benefit street wtf did you expect ? a daily mirror type retard title of a show. it was never going to go anywhere good :p
 
Unwilling lazy masses aside, I have a mate who is genuinely struggling and is being treated like crap at the dole office. I buy him beers and take him out on pub crawls with the lads to stop him going mental. Hopefully he'll find something soon but at least I'm doing something meaningful. Charity starts at home and all that.
 
Apparently there was a couple where both of them worked that were filmed extensively for nearly a year. For some reason the show got cut from five episodes to four and they got cut out completely. I'd have to suspect some less than honest decision making by Ch. 4 there!
 
badcompany said:
i just pretend I live in another country now, I sleep better that way. There is just so many idiots/scum/etc etc here now.
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Glad I don't have kids to be honest. I wouldn't want to be growing up in the aftermath of Labour's social experiment right now. That on top of ignorant, aggressive neds would be too much.
 
Emjay86 said:
Thats typical of modern TV. I work in the Heath Hospital in Cardiff and the BBC did a series there and other than being incredibly rude and downright offensive when told they couldn't have access to certain areas they also made the whole place to seem like a brilliant establishment that was highly efficient. They were also made to pass footage to the managers who then decided to cut certain stuff.
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Really? What dept? Its a small world.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
Undoubtedly, but the number of people on benefits who won't work is a problem.

As for the figures showing that its not worth working for some people my answer to that is that benefits must pay too much.
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Pay less benefits and families starve.

The problem is the system is broken. Minimum wage is so low that it barely pays more than benefits, if it even does in some cases. Even when they are working at minimum wage they need topping up with working tax credits etc just to survive. The government is subsidising the countries workforce for the company owners.
 
Lower the benefits and many people will end up homeless and on the street...

Lets have Landlords lower their rent and deposit charges, which would mean that less housing benefit would need to be payed
 
Narj said:
Unwilling lazy masses aside, I have a mate who is genuinely struggling and is being treated like crap at the dole office. I buy him beers and take him out on pub crawls with the lads to stop him going mental. Hopefully he'll find something soon but at least I'm doing something meaningful. Charity starts at home and all that.
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Not meaning to be harsh, but I'm assuming you've helped him try and find a job too? after all you taking him out for a night out to get rid of the stress every now and again is a good friend thing, but him having a job will get rid of that stress.
 
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