Oh dear, the benefit scroungers are scared!

TheLegendOfMart said:
Yeah what a travesty, who in their right mind would work for their benefits.....

You didn't get the benefits you wanted and you weren't prepared to put in any effort and gain experience on your CV by doing factory work for remploy.

Now you begrudge other people on benefits because you didn't get your way, you are a Class A ****
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Yep, wonder if he supports workfare? :D

http://www.boycottworkfare.org/
 
Caged said:
Here's a question for the people who are taking issue at giving people money to not work. Say, completely hypothetically, all those people managed to get a job - maybe some full time, but the majority either part time or zero-hours. Let's also assume that this change has happened over the course of five years and so the amount of money needed to top them up has increased in real terms due to rents etc. rising above inflation.

Would you be happy now that they are all working, even though their wages are being topped up by the state up to a figure that they can live on? Or would you go one rung up the ladder and concentrate on those working the least number of hours and decide that they should lose their state subsidies unless they worked more hours?

Is it the principle of giving money to people who aren't working that bothers you, or the amount that you are paying out?
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Personally i would be happy if everyone was working. therefore it's the principle of giving money to people who aren't working for more than 6 months.
 
86JR said:
The fact you are the one handing out personal starred out insults speaks more than any words I could say ;)

It is a known fact that Remploy factories are there to take advantage of the disabled. Remember they told me that my disabilities were not disabilities, and then sent me to a disability agency? I am sure you will choose not to read that also.
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I have no experience with autism but the fact you are running a "successful" company expecting to have £1m liquid assets means you have all your faculties about you, they were right not to give you extra disability benefits as it's not a barrier to work.

I volunteered to work in Remploys furniture factory, they paid for my £4 a day bus pass, they bought me some safety boots and trained me up on every stage of the factory including welding, painting, assembly and dispatch. I worked 40 hour days for my benefits next to guys who got £15k a year for doing the same thing I did.

I was grateful of the help and experience and Remploy bent over backwards to accommodate me.
 
Thank you.

No, I won't ever employ someone for free either. If anything I will pay them more than the going rate; I am not greedy, I want enough to buy a house outright, a good car, a weekend car, good clothes, and enough to take care of any dependents I may or may not have. I would say enough to look after my parents when they are older but as one of them has a 50% share in all of my companies that is pretty much a dead cert anyway.

I am not one of these people who has £10mill and "needs" £100mill. I don't see the point behind that one bit, unless you are Branson and are using it to do good in the world!
 
TheLegendOfMart said:
I have no experience with autism but the fact you are running a "successful" company expecting to have £1m liquid assets means you have all your faculties about you, they were right not to give you extra disability benefits as it's not a barrier to work.

I volunteered to work in Remploys furniture factory, they paid for my £4 a day bus pass, they bought me some safety boots and trained me up on every stage of the factory including welding, painting, assembly and dispatch. I worked 40 hour days for my benefits next to guys who got £15k a year for doing the same thing I did.

I was grateful of the help and experience and Remploy bent over backwards to accommodate me.
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I suggest you do some research then.
 
TheLegendOfMart said:
Go read some of his posts, he is bitter because he didn't get loads of benefits because his parents earn over the threshold and are expected to contribute towards him because he was under 25 and still living at home.

Now he has his own business he claims he started with £10 but actually used student loans and his mummy to fund it he is passing judgement over everyone on benefits and thinks poor people on benefits should ask their family for help instead of claiming benefits.
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I can't see no 'wrong' in anything he done? :confused:

He chose not to take the pittance the state offered and chose to employ himself, so to speak.

If you hit every single job agency in your town tomorrow you'll be employed by tomorrow night.
 
regulus said:
I can't see no 'wrong' in anything he done? :confused:

He chose not to take the pittance the state offered and chose to employ himself, so to speak.

If you hit every single job agency in your town tomorrow you'll be employed by tomorrow night.
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He whined because the state didn't give him more than he was entitled to yet he was happy to take it for 6 weeks until he got a hand up from his mummy to help him start a business. He is so bitter because they wouldn't give him loads of money he is now having a go at everyone on benefits because "his" taxes pay for them.

There are no job agencies in my town, a lot of the jobs I can go for start too early in the morning, no buses run before 7am and I'd have to set off at 4am in the morning to walk to get there by 6am.

I can't drive and I don't have a rich mummy and daddy who can help me.
 
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regulus said:
I can't see no 'wrong' in anything he done? :confused:

He chose not to take the pittance the state offered and chose to employ himself, so to speak.

If you hit every single job agency in your town tomorrow you'll be employed by tomorrow night.
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In a nation with a jobs deficit - if everybody did that we would still have unemployed people.
 
TheLegendOfMart said:
He whined because the state didn't give him more than he was entitled to yet he was happy to take it for 6 weeks until he got a hand up from his mummy to help him start a business. He is so bitter because they wouldn't give him loads of money he is now having a go at everyone on benefits because "his" taxes pay for them.

There are no job agencies in my town, a lot of the jobs I can go for start too early in the morning, no buses run before 7am and I'd have to set off at 4am in the morning to walk to get there by 6am.

I can't drive and I don't have a rich mummy and daddy who can help me.
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4am?

You'd be like me then my friend. Well, like me in November/December when I had to get up at 4am, catch the first H&C line from Westbourne Park at 4:48am, train out of London Marlybone at 5:34am for a 2:11 minute journey into Birmingham for 8am.

If you think I'm lying, go back on my post history to the 'This moment' thread where I mentioned these hours.

Anyway, this is not the point. I'm not trying to out do you here.

Is there really no jobs? As in nothing nothing?

What's the name of the town you live in if I may ask?
 
I live in Darwen, Lancashire. On Jobsmatch there is a grand total of 9 jobs that have been updated today.

4 are self employed listings for catalogue distributors, 4 I'm not qualified for and they are after people with experience and 1 is for 10 hours a week which isn't enough for me to live on.

The closest town is Blackburn, 99% of the factory jobs start at 6am and buses/trains don't start till 7-7:30. I apply for 5-10 jobs a day and I check jobsmatch every day.

I send out as many spec letters as I can a week, I can only apply so many times to supermarkets and fast food chains and get so many rejections before it's not worth me spending money on stamps and printer ink to send them out.
 
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TheLegendOfMart said:
If you can run a successful company you have no barriers that stop you from doing a full days work, that's what disability benefit is for. They were right to refuse you.
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Dyspraxia and autism makes for social communication problems. I had enough of them at uni let alone at work. I had a full educational psychologist review that states this. The reason I was not given this was because my parents earnt too much, (therefore paying high tax) and even though I was over the age of 18, they just told me to leech off my parents.

TheLegendOfMart said:
He whined because the state didn't give him more than he was entitled to yet he was happy to take it for 6 weeks until he got a hand up from his mummy to help him start a business. He is so bitter because they wouldn't give him loads of money he is now having a go at everyone on benefits because "his" taxes pay for them.

There are no job agencies in my town, a lot of the jobs I can go for start too early in the morning, no buses run before 7am and I'd have to set off at 4am in the morning to walk to get there by 6am.

I can't drive and I don't have a rich mummy and daddy who can help me.
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You don't read at all do you? I have already stated how the business started and how I put my own money into it, but you just choose to run around saying mummy paid for everything.

I have already paid back the £420 I claimed.

And now the real truth of your situation comes out:

There are no job agencies in my town, a lot of the jobs I can go for start too early in the morning, no buses run before 7am and I'd have to set off at 4am in the morning to walk to get there by 6am.
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So you can actually get a job. You just can't be bothered getting there.

You can buy a bike for under £30. Ride it to work.

As I really thought, you are just too lazy.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Bikes-/17...temCondition=3000&_nkw=bicycle&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1
 
What are you qualified for?

Why not work 10 hours a week and claim the rest? Better than just claiming for everything!!!!?
 
86JR said:

And now the real truth of your situation comes out:



So you can actually get a job. You just can't be bothered getting there.

You can buy a bike for under £30. Ride it to work.

As I really thought, you are just too lazy.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Bikes-/17...temCondition=3000&_nkw=bicycle&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1
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You weren't prepared to work for your benefits and you are lecturing me over the fact I'd have to get up at 3-3:30am, have a shower and set off by 4am and walk for 2 hours with my disability I have impaired walking ability and I can't ride a bike either

86JR said:
What are you qualified for?

Why not work 10 hours a week and claim the rest? Better than just claiming for everything!!!!?
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10 hours at minimum wage means I earn slightly more than JSA and means I also don't get rent or council tax help, I also wouldn't qualify for Working Tax Credits as you need to do over 30 hours a week to get them, after my half of rent and council tax it would leave me with £10 for bills, food for dinners/tea and any other expenses.
 
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Moreso, you are 20 minutes from Manchester, which is massive, and there is a train from Darwen to Manchester early in the morning.

06:35 Darwen [DWN] Platform 1
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cheapest fare
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£7.90

06:35am

All I see are excuses.
 
regulus said:
Maybe, but we'll also have more employed people. That's not a bad start I'd say.
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They'd be claiming in work benefits so not a lot would change, it's those at the top who need dealing with the unemployed are simply scapegoats who serve as a distraction.

Post-WW2 when we managed to pay off our massive war debts the super rich had to pay 95 percent tax, now they pay what... 25%? and that's only if they have the morality not to evade their obligations. A mere a 5-10% rise and closing loopholes would make the unemployed/benefits bill look insignificant.
 
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