Why are people so defensive about Nest?

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It seems that every article I read about the Nest thermostat is about how you're inviting Google into your home; 'spy in the nest' seems to be coined about a fair bit. But as far as I can see the only extra information they have is how warm I like to keep my house? Am I missing something?

Google already know pretty much everything about everyone including that we all like to visit this website thanks to Overclockers using Google Analytics. They know when I am at work or at home thanks to my phone. Is knowing the temperature of your home really one step too far? Or are people scared Google can work out that my home could do with an extra layer of insulation and will start showing me adverts for rolls of the stuff? Where is the line? Google is pretty much embedded in all our lives whether we like it or not so is the line just Google and we are protesting for protesting sake without any agenda? Do you prefer Google collecting data on everyone or the NSA? As it is no shock to any of us that Google collect data on you but it was that NSA and GCHQ does?
 
Trifid said:
Is knowing the temperature of your home really one step too far? Or are people scared Google can work out that my home could do with an extra layer of insulation and will start showing me adverts for rolls of the stuff?
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If google can work out that adding an extra layer of insulation can save me money, then bring on the ads :D
 
I don't know about nest, what I do know is the bloke who did the "hive" adverts needs hanging.

They're terrible, the fact they're crap doesn't make me too angry, the fact they're long is annoying, but the fact someone paid money for those advertisements enrages me.

Someone out there is being paid to be a useless tit.
 
As someone who works in the HVAC industry, this doesn't really seem to be the way forward. What we need much more of is better overall system design - most of you will probably be unaware that your condensing boiler never actually condenses anything as condensation occurs at around 50C and below, and the UK unfortunately is nearly all specced for 80C, at which water does not condense. This is tip of the iceberg, and the company I work for fights very hard to bring us closer to Danish standards, which are generally super efficient, as are their products.

Furthermore, they should be more interested in controlling the heating inside based ont he temperature outside.
 
Google are sitting on a tone of money so they made an investment towards diversifying their business. Also, Google don't know that much about us, at least not like the Goverments do, you're exaggerating. Google only knows Joe Doe likes overclockers so they will probably show him some PC hardware ads but they don't know who Joe Doe actually is.
 
Trifid said:
It seems that every article I read about the Nest thermostat is about how you're inviting Google into your home; 'spy in the nest' seems to be coined about a fair bit. But as far as I can see the only extra information they have is how warm I like to keep my house? Am I missing something?
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They're buying into a company that will help enable a connected home, where household devices have intelligence and can connect with each other. You can guess what will control/manage them all, it will be Android. They're not buying thermostats that spy on you but the ideas, designers and engineers that can help them achieve a Google connected world.
 
What is this connected home nonsense? What's wrong with a normal thermostat? I saw Internet connected fridge freezers from Samsung the other week. Is any of this ******** actually necessary and what new breed of mouth breathers are buying this crap? :/
 
dirtychinchilla said:
the company I work for fights very hard to bring us closer to Danish standards, which are generally super efficient, as are their products.
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That sounds very interesting. Do you have any more information on it?


Cosimo said:
They're buying into a company that will help enable a connected home, where household devices have intelligence and can connect with each other. You can guess what will control/manage them all, it will be Android. They're not buying thermostats that spy on you but the ideas, designers and engineers that can help them achieve a Google connected world.
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Quite frankly it seems like an excellent product and I look forward to seeing what else they come up with. If I had a large house and kids I would certainly be looking at getting a few of the smoke alarms too. There will always be a iPhone app as long as Apple allow it and web interfaces to control them from your computer.

nIckEl101 said:
frankly they know a hell of a lot about us!!

http://maps.google.co.uk/locationhistory
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You can turn that off in the Maps app, it uses a lot of power to provide that data.


Theophany said:
What is this connected home nonsense? What's wrong with a normal thermostat? I saw Internet connected fridge freezers from Samsung the other week. Is any of this ******** actually necessary and what new breed of mouth breathers are buying this crap? :/
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It looks to be an excellent product IMO. Easily set temperature schedules, set the temperature at the time when you want the house to be at that temperature and it will turn your boiler on at the correct time for your house to heat up. I want one for convenience rather than cost savings.
 
Trifid said:
It looks to be an excellent product IMO. Easily set temperature schedules, set the temperature at the time when you want the house to be at that temperature and it will turn your boiler on at the correct time for your house to heat up. I want one for convenience rather than cost savings.
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Any relatively modern boiler and/or thermostat can do that though... I'm all for technological advancements, but this just seems like gimmickry for its own sake.

In fact, the control panel for my boiler is bloody ancient and I can set different profiles for both hot water and central heating.
 
Trifid said:
That sounds very interesting. Do you have any more information on it?
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http://www.sav-systems.com/

Knock yourself out :) we sell numerous energy efficient Danish products, as well as circuits for under floor heating, fan coils, and radiator circuits, but the whole company has an ethos of genuinely trying to make sure that people in England are reducing their carbon emissions and saving money on energy bills. In Denmark energy bills cost about 300% as much as they do here, so it's no wonder they made everything so efficient!!
 
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