Whats with the BBC pushing daily statistical manipulation stories lately?

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Has anybody else noticed lately the BBC is awash with Dave the Saviour stories at the moment, telling us crime is down, wages are up, the nhs is spiffing and Dave is God. Oh also the lib dems are in the midst of a sex scandal and labour are.... invisible. Is there an election coming up or something?
 
^ I only consume my news media online. I can skim the drivel while the important stuff filters through. I can't stand tv broadcast news because its so slow and false. Just an irritating amount of irritating government propaganda is slipping through my otherwise impermeable net.
 
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Has anybody else noticed lately the BBC is awash with Dave the Saviour stories at the moment, telling us crime is down, wages are up, the nhs is spiffing and Dave is God. Oh also the lib dems are in the midst of a sex scandal and labour are.... invisible. Is there an election coming up or something?

Well I am glad we have informed people like yourself to tell us what the real stats are. I look forward to reading your report and reviewing the da-... Oh wait, that's not going to happen, is it?
 
I'm not sure that you have read the article, as it does not state that real wages are up but that the collation has said this. The headline is "UK pay rising in real terms, says coalition" they also have a part by their personal finance reporter who disagrees with the coalition figures.
 
Government statistics are of course by definition free from any political bias...

I like the old crime stats slogan: Tough on crime, tough on the reporting of crime ;)
 
Well I am glad we have informed people like yourself to tell us what the real stats are. I look forward to reading your report and reviewing the da-... Oh wait, that's not going to happen, is it?

Todays lie,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25869001

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Comment number 8. specialburger
1 HOUR AGO
This statistic manipulating government expect us, the lower-middle income families to accept this clap-trap? The price of everything has risen in the last 5 years and just because they reduce a little tax and NI they think were all square, get real and live in the real world.



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Comment number 31. Retired bloke
1 HOUR AGO
Personally I don't believe statistics issued by any party. My own experience and that of family, friends, neighbours is that most people in our area are struggling with rising food prices, energy bills and no wage increases. That's the only 'statistic' that matters.



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Comment number 28. billy goat gruff
1 HOUR AGO
My intelligence wishes to complain about this article as it has been insulted.



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Comment number 84. family guy
1 HOUR AGO
Rubbish!

Absolute North Korean-style drivel from this disturbing government.

The rich in this country are getting richer and richer ... while the poor working family get poorer.

Frankly this is an insulting manipulation of statistics to try to kid people that it is anything different.

Rather allot of people are spotting the inconsistencies with real life. What makes you so special aye? Is it your gullibility or tory party donation :p

...
 
Lets not forget yesterdays
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25858421
Crime in England and Wales down 10%, survey shows

With the recent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25002927
Police fix crime statistics to meet targets, MPs told

and again, look at the comments :

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Comment number 66. baldbiker
23RD JANUARY 2014 - 11:03
Manipulation of statistics for political gain should be a crime.

As should the media reporting it as factual.



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Comment number 69. Supermaxiboy
23RD JANUARY 2014 - 11:04
From the Sky News Website....

''Last week the UK Statistics Authority, the statistics watchdog, withdrew "gold-standard" status from the police-recorded crime figures, which began in the 19th century, because of the "accumulating evidence" that they were unreliable''.

Why wasn't this reported in this article?



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Comment number 4. Yoda
23RD JANUARY 2014 - 10:41
According to the Police there was no crime in Tottenham for the first 3 days of rioting. They certainly took no action and made no arrests.



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Comment number 55. Hunter S Thompson
23RD JANUARY 2014 - 10:58
This really is miraculous - in only 2 days the BBC and the ONS have told us that:

Unemployment has fallen,
Crime is down,
And that more schools are hitting government targets!

And to top it all off, we got a lovely Party Political Broadcast from the Conservative Party after last nights 6 o'clock news.

Unbelievable! It is literally government propaganda!

'lately'

lmao

Its in overdrive at the moment. Reeks of election
 
Todays lie,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25869001

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Comment number 8. specialburger
1 HOUR AGO
This statistic manipulating government expect us, the lower-middle income families to accept this clap-trap? The price of everything has risen in the last 5 years and just because they reduce a little tax and NI they think were all square, get real and live in the real world.



+72
Comment number 31. Retired bloke
1 HOUR AGO
Personally I don't believe statistics issued by any party. My own experience and that of family, friends, neighbours is that most people in our area are struggling with rising food prices, energy bills and no wage increases. That's the only 'statistic' that matters.



+65
Comment number 28. billy goat gruff
1 HOUR AGO
My intelligence wishes to complain about this article as it has been insulted.



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Comment number 84. family guy
1 HOUR AGO
Rubbish!

Absolute North Korean-style drivel from this disturbing government.

The rich in this country are getting richer and richer ... while the poor working family get poorer.

Frankly this is an insulting manipulation of statistics to try to kid people that it is anything different.

Rather allot of people are spotting the inconsistencies with real life. What makes you so special aye? Is it your gullibility or tory party donation :p

...

It has produced figures showing all except the richest 10% saw their take-home wages rise by at least 2.5% once tax cuts were taken into account.
That is more than the Consumer Prices Index (CPI) inflation rate of 2.4% in the year to April 2013.

So the top 10% of earners has seen a small increase in wages compared to inflation.

The headline itself says "according to the coalition"


Therefore I can only assume that yourself and the people commenting on the page haven't read or comprehended the article, and have simply jumped to conclusions after reading the first half of the article title.



As for why there are so many positive stories recently. Thats because there has been lots of positive news.
 
Rather allot of people are spotting the inconsistencies with real life. What makes you so special aye? Is it your gullibility or tory party donation :p

...

The BBC's comment section has always been like reading The Socialist Worker website. i.e they'll never be happy no matter how good things are going.

Been like that for years
 
Has anybody else noticed lately the BBC is awash with Dave the Saviour stories at the moment, telling us crime is down, wages are up, the nhs is spiffing and Dave is God. Oh also the lib dems are in the midst of a sex scandal and labour are.... invisible. Is there an election coming up or something?

The BBC would love to say good things about Labour, but their ranks are fully of utter numpties who lose Labour votes every time they open their mouths.

That their leader looks like something Nick Park threw together after a few pints does't help...
 
Has anybody else noticed lately the BBC is awash with Dave the Saviour stories at the moment, telling us crime is down, wages are up, the nhs is spiffing and Dave is God. Oh also the lib dems are in the midst of a sex scandal and labour are.... invisible. Is there an election coming up or something?

Utter fail by you, why not actually read the article.

They've reported what the government have said then asked there financial specialist who point to a different set of stats that don't back it up.
But he pointed out that more up-to-date Office for National Statistics data - the average weekly earnings index - showed wages rose "quite a lot less quickly than inflation in the most recent months".

He added that the IFS's own analysis suggested that "if the recovery takes off and continues as expected, people will start to see their incomes rising by 2015... but they will be well below where they were six or seven years ago".

So yeah your fail at only reading titles.
 
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