AMD improving nicely on Linux and the OpenGL platform

Gregster · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:00

LtMatt said:
No it doesn't bore me, but i just look around for all the AAA OpenGL games and i don't find any. Nonetheless i agree its good that AMD are improving their drivers in this area, but ill be more interested when this actually means something useful for Next Gen gaming.

http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/

As you know, SteamOS is in its infancy and will take time. It will be hard to come away from Windows but for many, this is a viable choice and the millions of Linux users would agree with me.

Plenty of AAA titles coming in 2014 apparently, so I for one will ne watching SteamOS/Ubuntu with a keen eye.

LtMatt · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:02

I look forward to it then, but for now there is nothing so performance improvements don't mean too much.

kunoichia · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:04

Thread ruined within a page. Thats the OCUK GFX section I know.

LtMatt · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:06

kunoichia said:
Thread ruined within a page. Thats the OCUK GFX section I know.

You know how things work here kunnybear.

Gregster · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:06

LtMatt said:
I look forward to it then, but for now there is nothing so performance improvements don't mean too much.

Like I look forward to Mantle improvements

LtMatt · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:10

Gregster said:
Like I look forward to Mantle improvements

Indeed. At this rate OpenGL might come first...

(lol you wish

)

humbug · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:12

LtMatt said:
No it doesn't bore me, but i just look around for all the AAA OpenGL games and i don't find any. Nonetheless i agree its good that AMD are improving their drivers in this area, but ill be more interested when this actually means something useful for Next Gen gaming.

This is my Beef with Open Source OS, at the moment there as absolutely nothing worth playing on them.

Once they have a selection of the latest AAA titles i might get serious with using it, thats going to be a while yet.

AMD are going to port Mantle to Linux, with some of the games they have in development on Mantle i'm much more interested in that.

LtMatt · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:15

humbug said:
This is my Beef with Open Source OS, at the moment there as absolutely nothing worth playing on them.

Once they have a selection of the latest AAA titles i might get serious with using it, thats going to be a while yet.

AMD are going to port Mantle to Linux, with some of the games they have in development on Mantle i'm much more interested in that.

Good info thanks. I didn't realise Mantle would be ported to Linux. Didn't even realise that was possible. Suddenly OpenGL got interesting

. Lol i kid.

Will get excited about the prospect of OpenGL when AAA games are announced/released as im sure it has potential. Just hard to get excited about it now.

~Mike~ · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:15

kunoichia said:
Thread ruined within a page. Thats the OCUK GFX section I know.

Quoted for the truth.

humbug · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:17

LtMatt said:
Good info thanks. I didn't realise Mantle would be ported to Linux. Didn't even realise that was possible. Suddenly OpenGL got interesting . Lol i kid.

Will get excited about the prospect of OpenGL when AAA games are announced/released.

Its all over their presentation slides

Mantle can run on any OS, Windows, Linux, iOS.... its not OS Dependant as it does not need the OS GFX API to work.

~Mike~ · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:17

LtMatt said:
OcuK is going downhill of late. Needs some moderating tbh.

It certainly has and does.

Can't believe the Mantle thread hasn't been closed considering the rubbish that is posted in there. It's gone completely off topic as well.

LtMatt · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:18

humbug said:
Its all over their presentation slides

Mantle can run on any OS, Windows, Linux, iOS.... its not OS Dependant as it does not need the OS GFX API to work.

Suddenly i have the urge to cackle wildly in an evil voice.

Greg you should have told me this in the OP and i would have jumped on you quicker than you could say Bernard Matthews.

Gregster · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:25

The thing about this for me is 'Open Standards' being the key. no D3D limitations and Microsoft being the restrictions no more. We have people keenly making this for the gamers (that I assume most of us are) and yet it is shunned straight away by some. Even I could see the benefits of Mantle being an Open Standard (if it ever is) but this is in the here and now and Mantle is still awaiting its first release....

I will certainly be giving SteamOS a chance and running alongside Windows 7 seems the best way for me. Dual booting the 2 seems fairly easy and the fact that M$ have nothing to hold SteamOS/Linux/Ubuntu back can only be of benefit, especially with both nVidia and AMD working on it.

LtMatt said:
Suddenly i have the urge to cackle wildly in an evil voice.

Greg you should have told me this in the OP and i would have jumped on you quicker than you could say Bernard Matthews.

I knew it was but thought I would wait and see the responses before anything was said and the responses from those who didn't know were what I expected in honesty...

As for the moderating comments, maybe report what you guys feel is out of order? It has worked for many years and will work for many more.

humbug · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:31

LtMatt said:
Suddenly i have the urge to cackle wildly in an evil voice.

That i would pay to see

GoogalyMoogaly · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:44

Th0nt said:
This thread is stinking already. Keep the personal stuff back on Mantle thread.

+1

Although ideally there'd be no personal stuff in any threads.

EDIT:
I see in Steam there are nearly 500 games listed under Linux now, do all these use OpenGL or is there something else you can use for simpler games?

Considering there are about 1800 Windows games on Steam, 500 is a larger percentage than I expected. I'm guessing this has grown and will grow due to SteamOS (plus I believe Valve are giving Linux developers all their games for free). Hopefully this can also help drive OpenGL improvements and in turn create a positive version of a catch-22 where the improvments in each help drive the other.

gpuerrilla · 25 Jan 2014 at 18:59

GoogalyMoogaly said:
+1

Although ideally there'd be no personal stuff in any threads.

Yeah but just reading how people are posting you know they are implying something less innocent - chiefly people do not want to back down on their views or misinterpret the 'debate' and actually nit pick to (in their heads) gain some credibility.

This happens on the CPU forum and I get sucked in and should know better.

Silent_Scone · 25 Jan 2014 at 19:01

Some of the AMD 'enthusiasts' really show their naivety and lack of time with this industry if they're so quick to disregard OGL info. It's hilarious how caught up a few of you are on this Mantle business when in reality OGL is already making bigger strides already.

Don't get mad. lol.

I'm really excited to see Mantle in Thief, it's all very interesting but try not to be so narrow minded :rolleyes:

. It's not Gregsters fault AMD have never really managed to get their cards working well in OGL lol. Or in Linux for that matter, for the few who are affected.

Gregster · 25 Jan 2014 at 19:04

GoogalyMoogaly said:
+1

Although ideally there'd be no personal stuff in any threads.

EDIT:
I see in Steam there are nearly 500 games listed under Linux now, do all these use OpenGL or is there something else you can use for simpler games?

Considering there are about 1800 Windows games on Steam, 500 is a larger percentage than I expected. I'm guessing this has grown and will grow due to SteamOS (plus I believe Valve are giving Linux developers all their games for free). Hopefully this can also help drive OpenGL improvements and in turn create a positive version of a catch-22 where the improvments in each help drive the other.

Yer, they are all OpenGL and the list on release was 75 games iirc, so this is certainly flying along. I know that the controller isn't compatible with all of them yet but they are patching the games that are already working on Linux for SteamOS.

Rusty0611 · 25 Jan 2014 at 20:06

LtMatt said:
No it doesn't bore me, but i just look around for all the AAA OpenGL games and i don't find any. Nonetheless i agree its good that AMD are improving their drivers in this area, but ill be more interested when this actually means something useful for Next Gen gaming.

'Good' not necessarily equal to being AAA.

There's a load of amazing games by smaller studios out there. You're depriving yourself of some real quality if you just stick to the monthly headline release games

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LtMatt · 25 Jan 2014 at 20:14

Rusty0611 said:
'Good' not necessarily equal to being AAA.

There's a load of amazing games by smaller studios out there. You're depriving yourself of some real quality if you just stick to the monthly headline release games .

Of course nothing wrong with Doom 3 and the Left 4 Dead series. Fun to play 5 years ago. However the big AAA games with massive bugets attract the masses and the best game engines.

What OpenGL games do you play Rusty?