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AMD improving nicely on Linux and the OpenGL platform

Rusty0611 said:
'Good' not necessarily equal to being AAA.

There's a load of amazing games by smaller studios out there. You're depriving yourself of some real quality if you just stick to the monthly headline release games :).
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You take that back!

Matt has a great record of **** games paid for. Inluding MOH:WF and dragging inhalf the CQ247 community with him in his misery and games such as Alien colonial marines and NFS:Rivals
 
Rusty0611 said:
'Good' not necessarily equal to being AAA.

There's a load of amazing games by smaller studios out there. You're depriving yourself of some real quality if you just stick to the monthly headline release games :).
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Actually, this is very true. Some AAA titles have been dire and yet some of the lesser known titles have great playability and give me far more fun than the over priced, expensive to make, games.

Antichamber/Bastion/Brother - a tale of 2 sons/FTL/Portal 1+2/Trine 1+2 to name a few that are so much fun for me.

Crysis 3 was dire, as was Crysis 2. Sim City also, Max Payne 3 was a pain to play.
 
kunoichia said:
You take that back!

Matt has a great record of **** games paid for. Inluding MOH:WF and dragging inhalf the CQ247 community with him in his misery and games such as Alien colonial marines and NFS:Rivals
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Lol its funny cos its true.
 
Gregster said:
Actually, this is very true. Some AAA titles have been dire and yet some of the lesser known titles have great playability and give me far more fun than the over priced, expensive to make, games.

Antichamber/Bastion/Brother - a tale of 2 sons/FTL/Portal 1+2/Trine 1+2 to name a few that are so much fun for me.

Crysis 3 was dire, as was Crysis 2. Sim City also, Max Payne 3 was a pain to play.
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Trine 2 is probably still the best looking game I've ever played, for an Indie title it's daft how good it looks (works on Open GL too ;)). Max Payne 3 I actually enjoyed though, but I'm one of those who enjoys story based games, loved Bioshock Infinite, Heavy Rain, Beyond, etc..
 
OpenGL , mantle and any other things gpu venders are working on are good for gaming as a whole, thief may or not be a AAA game a broken BF4 is surely not a AAA game yet
left for dead 2 was a AAA game
 
I'd definitely consider Thief a AAA game. Purely on the basis of the fan base that's been waiting a life time for a new one. Doesn't really matter if it's any good or not lol. Remember AAA game means popular, doesn't necessarily have to be any good :D.


It better be :(
 
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MjFrosty said:
I'd definitely consider Thief a AAA game. Purely on the basis of the fan base that's been waiting a life time for a new one. Doesn't really matter if it's any good or not lol. Remember AAA game means popular, doesn't necessarily have to be any good :D.


It better be :(
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Yep, AAA means a big song and dance about it (pretty much how a Block Buster movie is released)..

I am looking forward to Thief and hoping it delivers.
 
....News Flash.....

last time out gregster posted an unfavourable article for AMD and got slated for it, this time he posts a favourable article and surprise surprise he still gets slated for it. Sometimes you just cant win.


In other news AMD have improved their OpenGL drivers, surely good news all round.


PS: isn't the Playstaion4 using OpenGL?
 
LtMatt said:
Of course nothing wrong with Doom 3 and the Left 4 Dead series. Fun to play 5 years ago. However the big AAA games with massive bugets attract the masses and the best game engines.

What OpenGL games do you play Rusty?
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I don't mean about OpenGL specifically - I just mean in general. It seems you're putting AAA and good together as being synonymous. Which isn't the case.
 
I doubt Matt would take much of a look at Thief if it weren't for Mantle lol.

I'd save your breath for when there's a good long list of Mantle games, because as of now we've been waiting a few months for just one...with the rest being either very mediocre or barely in development yet.

Meanwhile on butchered Linux / SteamOS you have the option to play a long list of recent high brow games in OpenGL.

100% more variety, so why bait with something that's NOT EVEN OUT YET :D LOL.
 
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I'm all for progess be it OGL, DX, or MANTLE, got to admitted I've not played any ogl games since probably doom 3 or l4d.. Anyone able to get me some recommendations?

Gregster mentioned bastion and two brothers, both games I've heard are good, worth buying?


Edit- why's this damn steam Sig so big??
 
MjFrosty said:
I'd definitely consider Thief a AAA game. Purely on the basis of the fan base that's been waiting a life time for a new one. Doesn't really matter if it's any good or not lol. Remember AAA game means popular, doesn't necessarily have to be any good :D.


It better be :(
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Rusty0611 said:
I don't mean about OpenGL specifically - I just mean in general. It seems you're putting AAA and good together as being synonymous. Which isn't the case.
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No far from it Rusty. Frosty summed it up pretty well. There are plenty of good non AAA games, but they don't make headlines and they don't make lots of money.
 
I'm all for Steam OS, could be the saviour to long term PC gaming in the future, but it is far from ready right now in it's initial format.

Once it's running better, I'll give it a try on dual boot, I won't be getting rid of Windows any time soon as it's used/needed for a lot more stuff than playing games.

One of your better threads greg.;):)
 
I have a bit of an issue with Valve trying to reinvent the wheel because although MS are money hungry so and so's then Valve are on a whole new level because they actively sell titles on steam that are borderline fraud (X Rebirth) while denying any responsibility for being the agent.

Their tech support is absolutely woeful into the bargain.

OpenGL is IMO better than DX only because it's not as bloated as DX is - it's still not great mind you. Mantle is miles away better because it's a clean slate.

Good on AMD for making the effort because until Mantle assimilates you all we do have to look after our less fortunate brothers on DX and OGL. ;)
 
SteamOS now has Windows installer, dual-boot option, AMD and Intel GPU driver support

Since SteamOS was first released in December 2013, Valve has been quick to squash bugs and add much-needed functionality. It still isn’t clear when Valve will launch the final version of SteamOS (hopefully later this year), but it took a big step forward recently by releasing an ISO version that includes an easy-to-use Windowsinstaller and dual-boot functionality. SteamOS itself is still pretty much just a customized Debian distro with Steam pre-installed.

A couple of weeks ago, back when Valve unveiled its Steam Machine hardware partners at CES 2014, SteamOS also gained support for AMD and Intel GPUs. Previously, only Nvidia graphics cards had been supported. The AMD Catalyst driver implementation is fairly preliminary at this point, with slow-than-Windows performance and some visual glitching, but it should improve over time (as long as SteamOS actually goes on to be a critical success).

The SteamOS installer looks a lot like the Debian installer
The SteamOS installer looks a lot like the Debian installer… because it is
The new ISO version of SteamOS includes a Windows installer (the standard Debian installer for Windows), official support for dual-booting, support for legacy BIOS (non-EFI) systems — and if you burn the ISO to disc, it obviously supports installation from DVD. (You can happily mount the ISO in Windows and install from there, too.) Valve says that dual-boot support has received “very little testing,” so you shouldn’t yet try it out on your main computer — unless you’re prepared to lose everything. (Read: What is EFI, the long-overdue replacement for BIOS?)

Curiously, most of the changes in this most recent build of SteamOS were borrowed from Ye Olde SteamOSe — a modified version of the SteamOS installer that was released very soon after Valve first published its code, and has been developed side-by-side since. There are still lots of features in YOS that the official SteamOS lacks, though, such as real support (including 3D acceleration) for VMware and VirtualBox. (And indeed, YOS is a much simpler way of virtualizing SteamOS than our original guide, which was really rather convoluted.)

The SteamOS desktop, in VirtualBox
The SteamOS desktop, in VirtualBox
Moving forward, there isn’t a whole lot of transparency on Valve’s plans for SteamOS. It looks like the company is just going to slowly trudge forward until everything is polished, with sporadic releases when something major occurs. SteamOS’s major features, such as in-home streaming of PC games to your living room Steam Machine, or better-than-Windows performance, are still nowhere to be seen. The incompleteness of SteamOS, combined with the recent change to the Steam Machine controller, suggest that we won’t see the final build of SteamOS (or the Steam Machines) until mid-2014 at the earliest.
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It is getting there :)
 
Gregster said:
It is getting there :)
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"The new ISO version of SteamOS includes a Windows installer (the standard Debian installer for Windows), official support for dual-booting, support for legacy BIOS (non-EFI) systems"

Where is the DL for that? i just looked and its still the same ZIP file which will not work on my system as i don't have a UEFI BIOS.
 
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