Sainsbury's Parking Ticket
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Agreed, and reasonable grounds for a dispute IMHO.
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What if you were picking up an elderly relative who was sitting inside waiting for you with a load of shopping? how are you supposed to help them to the car?
Why would you have left her to negotiate Sainsburys alone if she isn't able to walk to the car unaided?
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[TW]Fox;25771696 said:Why would you have left her to negotiate Sainsburys alone if she isn't able to walk to the car unaided?
Old people can wait for family to pick them up, carrying their bags is just a nice thing to do!
I did exactly this and got a parking fine for it in the post. I shredded it and forgot about it, no comebacks. I agree with Steedie...ignore it.
Don't pay it. Appeal it.
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Do you think I should dispute is on these grounds (rather than on the grounds of unclear signage)?
Was it at Sainsbury's by any chance?
On what grounds would you do so?
It's Portswood in Southampton
Thanks again everyone, the majority opinion seems to be that I should appeal, I'm just trying to work out how to phrase it.
I popped into Waitrose today and as I was leaving some glorious looking girl turned up in an A1 and parked in the disabled bay, OBVIOUSLY form the "well look how gorgeous I am" school of rules for her. Within seconds she was owned by about 3 people and had to move her car. She was fit, but she was also a thick **** (that's the word that sounds like hunt) and got owned, much to my satisfaction it must be said. So OP, read the ******* (that's the word that sounds like clucking) sign. You KNEW you shouldn't park there, now your woe is me story is trying to justify it.
Tired of people moaning when they do wrong at get caught out.
Tired of people moaning when they do wrong at get caught out.
Not true. I would not have parked there had I known exactly what that sign meant, and it was not clearly stated. When I left the car there I was not wilfully breaking the rules. I would not, for example, do as in your example and park in a disabled bay when I am not.
I am not trying to get out of something where I am in the wrong, I have already stated, in the OP no less, that technically I agree that the fault is mine.
This thread was to gauge opinion as to whether the parking company had made a reasonable attempt to display the rules clearly, and whether the reaction to my breach of the rules was appropriate. The opinion seems to be (in majority and you excepted) that the signage was appropriate, but their reaction in terms of fine amount was not. As such, I should contest the fine.
Bit of a difference between a disabled space and a waiting layby to be fair.
Once you get the ticket, post it up on fightback forums and they'll tell you exactly what you should say. The avenues of appeal I'd use off the top of my head would be:
Non-compliant signage
Charge not representative of loss
Parking attendant did not observe your vehicle for enough time
But you're far better off posting this on fightback forums, with a copy of the ticket as they know far more about such things than I do.
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You were waiting for someone but saw an old lady stumble and rushed to her aid, to help her get back to her car. By the time you returned, an aggressive chap was standing next to your car in a hi-vis, staring at your girlfriend's breasts and using foul language to try and intimidate you. You apologised and tried to explain yourself, but he tutted and ignored you.
Or just do a boring old appeal on the above grounds.
Or just do a boring old appeal on the above grounds.
You can't get a little bit pregnant. We all break the rules, just stop moaning like a girl when you get caught and take your ******* medicine.
Yes it was, it was clearly on the sign, you just didn't read it.
(Driver must remain with the vehicle) is CLEARLY on the sign, you didn't and got a ticket. I am not saying I don't agree that such things are petty and some pragmatism is sadly lacking, but what you are saying is I didn't pay full attention and got a ticket, so I say hard luck, move on. The legal aspect is not addressed by throw it in the bin either. Will they chase you for it who knows, but if they do you have obligations I believe so head in the sand or ignoring it is not going to help you IF they do come looking for their fine.
I never get why people say this. If you've done something wrong, but you know you can get away with it, why wouldn't you? Maybe I'm a horrible, immoral person but I've appealed every ticket I've ever got regardless of whether I was in the wrong or not, because it saves me money. Bit of a no brainer surely?
Agreed, it was on the sign. My point was that when I left the car, I did not know that I was breaking the rules. Now since I took the time to read the sign to check the time limit, the fact that I did not see the driver restriction (perhaps) implies that it was not stated clearly enough.
There is some tiny writing at the bottom of the sign in the third picture in my OP. If "driver must remain with vehicle" was in this font size, it would be unacceptable. So, where's the line?
Thank you for the legal stuff, I was aware that just ignoring it is probably not the way to go since the rules have changed. I will therefore not ignore it, I will either contest it or pay up.
P.S. It irritates me that "must" and "vehicle" are capitalised, but not "remain"
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Driver must remain in vehicle is a preceding condition, the £60 charge is clearly stated as applicable to "following conditions"...
I suspect there are further "following conditions" in the small print on the sign, it would be necessary for the driver to leave the vehicle to read the small print...
If the argument is that you were parked and not waiting because you left the vehicle then it would be impossible for a motorist to wait on a double yellow for the purpose of loading and unloading...
I suspect there are further "following conditions" in the small print on the sign, it would be necessary for the driver to leave the vehicle to read the small print...
If the argument is that you were parked and not waiting because you left the vehicle then it would be impossible for a motorist to wait on a double yellow for the purpose of loading and unloading...