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I always cycle in. Was good to see loads of people get on their bikes today. Was not jealous of the people in the massive bus queues!
All London underground ticket offices to close by 2015
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Because it indicates intransigence on the part of the Mayor of London. The RMT were pushing for last minute negotiations prior to the strike, I believe that a deal could have been reached. Make no mistake, Boris has done everything in his power to make sure this strike happened.
I didn't have to dry my eyes, I wasn't annoyed, frustrated or complaining about having to walkDry your eyes mate. A 30 minute walk doesn't sound too bad to me. Our office is that distance away from the nearest railway station. I bet your walk was more scenic than mine too
. I am glad however that I don't have to do it every day. London is a beautiful city so it was a nice walk (apart from the traffic fumes), and being late to work isn't a problem. Getting home shouldn't be so bad, apparently the Northern line is running, which will be handy.
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I found ironic that a station platform I passed earlier today was sectioned off with red tape.
I'm on a course this week in London that I've self funded, so was pretty peeved to find out i could have to walk 3.3 miles to get there for 2 of the days. Luckily the Hammersmith and City line was still running. The quicker we get these ticket machines in the quicker we can stop the disruptions, it's making London look like a joke.
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Good old rmt. Another more sensible union should come into the sector and I bet most people would ditch the joke that is RMT.
Change needs to happen and if there's enough notice, most people will naturally progress to new internal Job, retire, move on. If there's still to many people, you offer voluntary redundancies.
You cant just keep the status quo and this is something RMT doesn't understand. And the strike rate is usually pretty darn poor at least down here, maybe they have a better following in London/LU
Change needs to happen and if there's enough notice, most people will naturally progress to new internal Job, retire, move on. If there's still to many people, you offer voluntary redundancies.
You cant just keep the status quo and this is something RMT doesn't understand. And the strike rate is usually pretty darn poor at least down here, maybe they have a better following in London/LU
That's a rather skewed view that assumes the 'last minute negotiations' were anything more than a token gesture. Bottom line is that it was made clear that the ticket office closures will not be stopped early in the day; how can a political leader expect to retain any credibility by backing down from a policy they've put their name to so publicly? There are two sides to the argument.
But then your political leanings are rather prolific here, so it's no surprise which side of the fence you're on.
That's like the one the BBC showed but it had both on video. Watching that video you see boris laughing..he should grow up.
Glad we don't want a Mayor in my area if their as stupid as him.
This country is rotten to the core!
We can't progress with jokers like these.
We can save money and get rid of these old fashioned booths and progress to having something like maybe 3G underground, no wait they have gone on strike...leave it.
Absolutely rotten to the core.
Why is he stupid? :/
He seems totally right to me. Bob Crowe and the like aren't stupid men. They all see what's happening with ticket offices and understand that their days are numbered. However, if they don't fight it, they immediately make themselves redundant.
I can think of a number of possible ways they can solve this problem (I'm not sure what they're actually proposing):
1. Online
2. Ticket machine
3. At one of the many national rail ticket offices which will still exist in London
That's a rather skewed view that assumes the 'last minute negotiations' were anything more than a token gesture. Bottom line is that it was made clear that the ticket office closures will not be stopped early in the day; how can a political leader expect to retain any credibility by backing down from a policy they've put their name to so publicly? There are two sides to the argument.
But then your political leanings are rather prolific here, so it's no surprise which side of the fence you're on.
Why would last minute negotiations be a token gesture? These sort of negotiations have worked in the past, why wouldn't they work again this time if both sides approached them openly, honestly and transparently?
You see, you've fallen into the Anglo-Saxon trap of thinking that all organisations have to be run as a sort of pyramid, with those at the top ruling by diktat. In more enlightened countries, such as Germany, no-one would ever say anything along the lines of "it was made clear from the start that you'd all be losing your jobs". Instead they'd work with the unions and come up with a modernisation plan that was more workable and acceptable to all parties.
Being a political strong man ala Putin might sit well with the right-wing press and the idiots who lap up the hatred spouted by people like Katie Hopkins, but really the most respect should be given to people who can listen, negotiate and make deals. FYI one of Boris Johnson's pledges was that there would be no ticket office closures on the London Underground. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/feb/04/boris-johnson-london-underground
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Not just me.
"“blithering, Bullingdon, Bollinger drinking buffoon"
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayo...ffoon-says-tooting-mp-sadiq-khan-8979777.html
"The public knows him as a mop-haired joker. He is Boris Johnson, the bike-riding, bumbling buffoon"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boris-johnson-opinion-the-clowns-act-814928#.UvILtWePOHs
I could do this all day. As I said the people around me voted we DON'T want a stupid idiot like that.
Bob Crow has frequently stated that they're not looking to negotiate, so why would suddenly wanting to negotiate at the 11th hour be anything more than a token gesture? It doesn't make sense.
I work for a foreign organisation with an incredibly flat management structure, so please don't do yourself a disservice by making baseless assumptions.
Finally, I'm not saying that Boris should be iron-fisted or similar, but there is an element of having to stand by your principles in this politics game. Whilst it would be lovely to sit round a table and have a progressive discussion, you're again assuming that the RMT would approach such a discussion in a progressive manner. As to the manifesto pledge, it was 2008 for goodness sake. Do we really have to do a merry dance of pointing out all the politicians and parties that have moved away from manifesto pledges after a term in office?
Pretty much my thought. May as well get the Metro for a quote as well, for balance.