All London underground ticket offices to close by 2015

Unions. Strikes. I hate them.

In the private sector, there are job losses....can people strike? No.

Unions just holding people to ransom over and over. Just *** off.

Of course people can strike in the private sector :confused:
 
Go back and read the post. is your name boris?

Krooton asked you for a citation showing that most people in London don't believe that Boris is a good mayor.

You replied that a "citation is needed for facts not wishes". This implies that you wish that Boris Johnson was a bad mayor. If it was a fact, you would have supplied a citation.
 
Krooton asked you for a citation showing that most people in London don't believe that Boris is a good mayor.

You replied that a "citation is needed for facts not wishes". This implies that you wish that Boris Johnson was a bad mayor. If it was a fact, you would have supplied a citation.

That what is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
 
Apologises, you're right. I linked to the wrong article. Here's a link to what he said in 2010.

I don't particularly blame Boris though. He has limited tax raising powers. It's central government's policy of reducing public transport budgets, and limiting fare increases, that has forced him to cut costs.

Ah, now that is unfortunate! But even so, it was four years ago so I'm not sure I agree with the notion that it is a broken promise.

To me at least, manned ticket offices seem to be something of an anachronism; I know that isn't a reason to get rid of them, but it just seems like the money used to keep them open could be better spent by improving some of the dated rolling stock. For example, the Bakerloo, Circle, Hammersmith & City and Piccadilly lines are still running on 1970s trains, some of which haven't been refurbed in almost 20 years. Being a passenger on these carriages at peak times can be quite unpleasant when compared to the lovely carriages on the Metropolitan line.
 
Are you unable to answer his question directly?

I've got all the answers I need from his posts.

I think it's clear we both sit on completely different sides of the fence on this. I'm not going to claim he is wrong, he's entitled to his opinion, and if there weren't opposites in this world we'd never challenge anything, so from that perspective it's a good thing.

I just hope that the archaic unions and so on disappear, but apparently that's infringement on people's rights and puts them at risk of exploitation...
 
The ticket offices will be closed but there will still be staff in the ticket halls to help passengers and issue unusual tickets.

And the major ticket offices at points of entry into London (such as the ones at the main train stations) will also stay open.

Bob Crow didn't want to negotiate, he wanted no job losses (where Boris states they will all be voluntary redundancies) no ticket office closures (because it's better for his staff if they can sit in a walk office all day on Facebook, ignoring those that need help n at least that's what they appear to do at my local station...) and stop the 24 hour tube proposal due to working hours for his staff (London being one of the only major ones not 24 hours). If however suggestions of modernisation are put on the cards so his membership don't have to work nights then he''ll also call for a strike as that could mean some of his members may lose their job.

Unions are great and have been instrumental in changing the way we work however there are several, such as the RMT that embody everything wrong about the union movement. Holding companies/organisations/cities hostage because you want your members to have an above inflation pay rise, protect poor employees from being fired and stopping modernisation just in case it may affect your members is not what unions should be about!

The great thing is he's such a short term thinker (much like many of the other famous modern union leaders -Scargill comes to mind) he's doing his membership out of long term jobs. It pushes organisations to remove staff from the equation and automate systems. Not that he cares about the long term, as long as he can draw his salary and benefits...

As for my journey to work. I just grabbed the overground instead. I actually got to work 10 minutes earlier than normal and got a seat (as usual).
 
Good info..thank you. I know that they was going to have driverless cars in the US but then a 14 year old hacked them pmsl

At the end of the day we all know it's about the share holders wanting more money. I say the government should NOT
give a single penny to any train company.

Erm... The tube is owned by TFL, it's public... It used to be private but not any more.
 
Personally, even though I'm a raving right wing capitalist, I'd prefer major infrastructure like transport to be run by the government (although I'm pretty sure they would make a hash of it as usual).

East coast is a perfect example of what I think the overground system should look like. One or two public owned companies competing with the private companies. That way neither private or public company can rest or abuse without the other taking over on the next franchise.
 
I work for a foreign organisation with an incredibly flat management structure, so please don't do yourself a disservice by making baseless assumptions.

Hint: I wasn't talking about management structures, I was talking about the culture of an organisation.
 
Krooton asked you for a citation showing that most people in London don't believe that Boris is a good mayor.

You replied that a "citation is needed for facts not wishes". This implies that you wish that Boris Johnson was a bad mayor. If it was a fact, you would have supplied a citation.



Ok you're boris aren't you..

Originally Posted by Cosimo View Post
But in London he is known as a good mayor who gets the job done and that is what counts.

Originally Posted by deuse View Post
Pity most of the people in London don't feel the same.

Originally Posted by krooton View Post
Citation?

citation Needed is when someone post facts not wishes

Ok "pity" is my feeling ok now....read the THREAD.
 
As for my journey to work. I just grabbed the overground instead. I actually got to work 10 minutes earlier than normal and got a seat (as usual).

Yup same here, the train missed out all the second set of stops and then it was a 40 minute walk and bam. done.

Dont care much how it happens, but this lot need a great big shove into reality starting with that numpty dinosaur Crow.
 
Ok "pity" is my feeling ok now....read the THREAD.

You really arn't cut of for this debating lark arn't you?

You have a feeling on a statement you made which you indicated was a fact, yet there is nothing to support your statement that "people in London don't feel the same"

So not only is your statement unsupported, you feeling on the statement isn't supported either, you have a feeling on statement you made up in your head.

I might as well say "I feel sad that deuse dresses like a Liberace on Saturday nights and likes to roamnce goats" It hold about the same amount of water as what you stated
 
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Ok "pity" is my feeling ok now....read the THREAD.

So you meant that it was a pity that most Londoners don't feel the same as you?

Because we all read it as

"Most Londoners like Boris"
"It's a pity that most Londoner's don't like Boris."
 
Ok you're boris aren't you..


Ok "pity" is my feeling ok now....read the THREAD.

You said that most people in London feel the same. I don't care whether you pity them or not, I'm interested in finding out where you got your information that most people in London don't feel the same.

And, for that matter, if you don't like Boris, why are you saying that it's a pity that most people in London don't like Boris as well? Surely they're on your side and, if it's true, he'll lose the next election?
 
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