bbc forcing mixed panels on their shows

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Yes you can (write them off)... if they can't make the transfer then they don't deserve a guaranteed place on a panel show! It should be based on merit. Next thing you know, you'll have to have a black comedian on every panel show (whilst funnier than female comedians, and I do enjoy some of them - they still tend to play the "black" card too much for my liking - but thats just preference)

indeed "meh you suck at your current job, but you were good at your last one so you're in!"
 
Do we have any women on here who find people like Jo Brand or Sarah Milligan funny?

Maybe it's just because I'm a bloke that I can't relate to their jokes.

Jo Brand can be funny. I've seen her do it. She has the skills.

I think that the problem is that she built a career and stage persona on being a caricature and pandering to socially acceptable sexism. "I hate men" got her money and fame, along with "I'm a woman" and "I'm fat". I doubt if she is or was as sexist as she portrayed herself as being (and still does, to a lesser extent). But it got her money and fame, so she did it. If she takes a risk and goes for being funny, she can do it.

That's a large part of the problem in general, I think. Jo Brand is just a particularly obvious example. It's easier and profitable to pander to the prevailing socially acceptable prejudices. So you get comedians taking the easy route of denigrating men because antimale sexism is a prevailing socially acceptable prejudice. Probably less so than in the recent past, but it's there as the easy route. The other factor is group identity - if someone is identified as a specific group (either by themself or by others), then the easy route is to play on that. So a female comedian has the easy route of getting money and fame by centering her whole act on saying "I'm a woman". Which isn't actually funny, and there's the problem.

The solution would be sexual equality and an end to the idea that women are a special case. Of course, that would require feminism to not exist, since feminism is sexism and the idea that women are a special case. So don't expect to see it happen.
 
Susan Calman keeps appearing on shows now, don't really like her comedy.

Some of the funniest episodes of QI have all male panels.
 
The female panelists they get on QI tend to be quite good for the format of the show. Sandy Toksfig (hell if I know how to spell her name ><) is always really good on it.

Toksvig. I keep wanting to write 'Toskvig', probably because that would be more English. People tend to morph words into a form more similar to their own language.

I agree with you, but they still sometimes slip into the easy route of "I'm a woman. Men are sexist. Women are better." It's an easy road, all the more annoying when they're capable of better. Like a recent episode in which Sandi Toksvig mentioned canoeing (sp?) across Africa(*) and Susan Calman misheard/misinterpreted (or pretended to) it as her saying that she crossed Africa in the nude. That was hilarious and excellently done.

But in general? On the likes of Mock the Week they always seem to be there for the sake of it. They generally don't contribute anything to the random banter and some of them are really unoriginal.

Some comedians, particularly female ones, won't do Mock the Week because it's relatively highly competitive. You have to compete for air time with the other panelists, sometimes to the extent of just talking over them.


* Which I'm pretty sure is impossible or at least impractically time consuming - Africa is huge and a canoe is rather slow. Part of Africa, presumably.
 
Oh great, forced to have to watch annoyingly unfunny comedians on mock the week.

Like any other mock the week then. Quite how you can sit there and say female comedians suck when they still feature Andy Parsons as a regular is beyond me.
 
The bbc is far more misandric than sexist towards women. Its so afraid of appearing to be not equal that they have become misandric. misandric is sexist towards men.

No, it isn't. Misandry is hatred of men. Different thing entirely. The BBC does have a policy of antimale sexism, but it doesn't have a policy of hating men.
 
No, it isn't. Misandry is hatred of men. Different thing entirely. The BBC does have a policy of antimale sexism, but it doesn't have a policy of hating men.

It does you just can't notice it yet. I didn't notice it until I was made aware of it.

In their attempt to "end male dominance" where there is none, results in them holding men in contempt.
 
But she's an old immigrant, not a woman. It's the first two where her comedy comes from.

I'm pretty sure that Sandi Toksvig is a woman. I admit that I haven't seen her naked or seen her medical records, but it would be quite remarkable if she wasn't a woman and had successfully concealed that fact.
 
It should not be an issue to have a comedy program with all male staff, the fact that someone felt compelled to bring it up and some how generate a multi media story about the opinion is sexist. There is no mention of who suggested that there should be more females? was it a user feedback that some how made it in to all the newspapers? was it someone at the BBC press release staff sent an email to all the newspapers?
 
I'm pretty sure that Sandi Toksvig is a woman. I admit that I haven't seen her naked or seen her medical records, but it would be quite remarkable if she wasn't a woman and had successfully concealed that fact.

she is gay though so depending where you fall on nature vs nurture mentaly at least may be lsiding towards the more male end of the brain spectrum.
 
Does this mean we'll see more of this thing?:

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If so, screw you BBC, screw you to hell.
 
I'm sure they will happy being on these shows knowing that the only reason they're on is because they happen to be a women.

They can always edit out their jokes. :p
 
i went to see QI being filmed a few years back, Alan Davies, Ruby Wax, Ross Noble and Sean Locke were the panellists. it was absolutely hilarious, apart from when Wax spoke. she really isn't funny and to an extent was ****ing annoying.
 
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