Persecution of Gays

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Just looked up homosexual behaviour in animals on wiki and thought this was interesting:

One species in which exclusive homosexual orientation occurs, however, is that of domesticated sheep (Ovis aries).[8][9] "About 10% of rams (males) refuse to mate with ewes (females) but do readily mate with other rams."[9]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

Influenced by their homosexuality promoting society I presume? :p
 
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oulton said:
Sliver, we make so many unconscious choices in life that we are simply not aware of. To use the marmite analogy, usually someone acquires a taste for marmite through repeated exposure to it. The same goes for many habits. The older I get the more I remind myself of my father. Why? Because we are similar genetically, but also because his sense of humour, his character and his way of living rubbed off on me when growing up. This is how human beings work, we are influenced by what we experience. And because of this I find the proliferation of homosexual propaganda in society worrying.
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I concede your point in part regarding human experience, which is what I was alluding to in my previous post about nature and nurture. I just find, given what I've learned and talking to gay people and listening to what they have to say, that it's nature which trumps nurture when it comes to sexual orientation. Those who fall in the middle are bisexual. It makes sense to me that we are not simply a product of our environment but we actually bring something to the party too. We bring our genetic code. This is our template for the life we live, it defines our personality, our health and our sexuality. Of course nurture impacts all of these things, but if the issue was simply nurture and not nature at all, then how would gay people arise from straight parents ?
 
oulton said:
Sliver, we make so many unconscious choices in life that we are simply not aware of. To use the marmite analogy, usually someone acquires a taste for marmite through repeated exposure to it. The same goes for many habits. The older I get the more I remind myself of my father. Why? Because we are similar genetically, but also because his sense of humour, his character and his way of living rubbed off on me when growing up. This is how human beings work, we are influenced by what we experience. And because of this I find the proliferation of homosexual propaganda in society worrying.
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Yes, and I like every product that is advertised to me...

I see loads of beer adverts, people getting rounds on evenings out, and you know what, I still don't like beer.

I'm probably subjeted to more make-up advertising than most things, but I don't wear any.

I like what I like, and no amount of 'propoganda' will change that, so if someone is attracted to the same sex, they are so just because they are, not because they have the all the boxsets for Will & Grace.
 
Sliver said:
Family is important but the parents sexuality is irrelevant. You keep stating over and over that a family should be 'natural' which in your view is a man and a woman with offspring and that this is how our utopia should be. This is a pointless line of argument. Do you not realise how many children in traditional family environments are abused, both sexually and mentally by their parents ? Who the hell said that having a mum and a dad makes everything natural ? Is being molested by your pervert dad natural ?

My point is it's not about sexual orientation regarding how well a child will develop, it's about having loving, decent parents who care for and treat their children well. I'm quietly confident that Elton John's adopted son will grow to be a healthy, happy and well balanced and tolerant adult. Probably heterosexual too ! :p
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I never said anything about utopia. This is how the human race has lived for 1000s of years with a men and a female as parents in a family. It is only since the advent of the social acceptability of homosexuality, where what was once nothing more than a sexual perversion has morphed in to full blown identity. Now children are encouraged to let their homosexual and bisexual tendencies come out.

A same sex parents could never offer the same level of parenting that a natural family could offer because each sex offers a unique parenting experience that creates a fully balanced and well adjusted individual. Of course i am speaking generally. Some same sex parents may raise a child better than some natural families who are terrible parents. There will always be exceptions, but the main point holds true that same sex parents and single parent households are not the ideal environment. The ideal environment is the natural family.

Children brought up in male only house holds often lack empathy and emotional development which they learn from the female parent figure.

Children brought up in female only house holds often lack discipline and ambition which they learn from the male in the house hold.


Of course homosexuals will disagree because it is within their interest to disagree. The homosexuals like the feminists before them want to encourage the break down of the natural family. If there is no problem with it what so ever would it work the same if say 60% of people became homosexual and wanted to raise children? Say we had 40% of children being raised by same sex parents, it would be naive to think this would not have any effect on society. The only argument you are left with is that its only a small amount of homosexuals and only a small amount of same sex parents so therefore the impact (if any) will be negligible.


Homosexuality is a choice, how do you explain bisexuals then? they are just attracted to both sexes? skin pigmentation is inherent it is genetic, sexual preference is not. The only reason why what was once considered a sexual perversion is now a sexual identity is because of the social acceptability of homosexuality which was a result of the oppression. In order for the perversion to be considered social acceptability they created a false ideal of the homosexual that was permeated in western culture. Now i am not against the sexual preference as long as the sexual activity is voluntary etc. People should be free to do what they please, but don't pretend being gay is some kind of special third human sex, you have male, female and gay people?
 
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Shocky-FM said:
These threads make me laugh, due to political correctness how many users here are keeping quiet? I wonder.
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I'm the least PC correct freak you'll ever meet, I think pussy liberals are laughable and should be thrown in a crocodile tank for sports. But even I don't understand why they're NOT allowed to get married. It's my dying wish to see a world where morons don't impose their skewed and idiotic beliefs on others.

However, I also don't particular want to listen to homos moan and lambast and push themselves onto every TV screen and newspaper.

Give them freedom to marry. It'll make no difference to anyone. It's nobody's business.
 
schnoodles said:
"Propaganda"? I don't remember ever encountering any "propaganda". I'll be sure to watch out for those sneaky gays trying to turn me though! :rolleyes:
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its everywhere.


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Since when did the guardian become a gay newspaper?
Why are footballers forced to wear rainbow shoe laces?
Why are a massively disproportinate number of people on tv loudly gay?
Why is the media constantly bashing sochi using the gay bandwaggon instead of simply being honest about not liking russia?
Why has Obama and Davey boy boycotted the Sochi olympics on gay grounds? You are fools if you believe it is because they are heroes for homosexuality. Its nothing but politics and propoganda my short sighted friend.
 
schnoodles said:
It also suggests that there's something to fear. I'm not sure what the problem with more gay people would be, exactly.
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Nor do I. My fiancé is a proper 'fag hag' having pretty much only gay guys as friends. Absolutely diamond geezers. Only one proper camp guy and the rest you wouldn't even know is gay until you speak to them.

I REALLY, don't see the issue here. Or rather, the issue isn't theirs.
 
anything I don't mind said:
I never said anything about utopia. This is how the human race has lived for 1000s of years with a men and a female as parents in a family. It is only since the advent of the social acceptability of homosexuality, where what was once nothing more than a sexual perversion has morphed in to full blown identity.
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Ah yes, the 'good ol days' ey? Back when we could just kill someone for being different. Mm dem feels

Your rationalization of homophobia is getting tiresome. Just admit you are against gays and stop your (almost) cult-like repetition of the 'natural family'.

I can almost imagine you saying 'for the greater good'

schnoodles said:
I keep trying and failing. It annoys me that my choice is limited to the opposite sex. :(
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Free your mind son, then you can embrace men's butts
 
Theres a documentary on the nature/nurture thing by John Barrowman, looks into his specific case with relation to research that is being done. Well worth a watch, very interesting.
 
Blazin23 said:
Your rationalization of homophobia is getting tiresome. Just admit you are against gays and stop your (almost) cult-like repetition of the 'natural family'.
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Always a vacuous argument. The "natural family" is running naked around the fields eating raw rabbits. And probably doing a fair bit of raping as well.
 
Blazin23 said:
Ah yes, the 'good ol days' ey? Back when we could just kill someone for being different. Mm dem feels

Your rationalization of homophobia is getting tiresome. Just admit you are against gays and stop your (almost) cult-like repetition of the 'natural family'.

I can almost imagine you saying 'for the greater good'



Free your mind son, then you can embrace men's butts
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a xeonphobe and a pervert?
 
Blazin23 said:
Ah yes, the 'good ol days' ey? Back when we could just kill someone for being different. Mm dem feels

Your rationalization of homophobia is getting tiresome. Just admit you are against gays and stop your (almost) cult-like repetition of the 'natural family'.

I can almost imagine you saying 'for the greater good'



Free your mind son, then you can embrace men's butts
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I am not homophobic i am just an advocate of the natural family, big difference. But it is not uncommon for homosexuals to label me as homophobic when they hear my views because to be honest they are not exactly politically correct views these days. Shocking realy, that advocating the natural family has become taboo. But that it just the way it has turned out.
 
anything I don't mind said:
Homosexuality is a choice, how do you explain bisexuals then? they are just attracted to both sexes?
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Yes.

Why is it impossible to like 2 things? I like kids films and horrors, opposite ends of the film spectrum, I don't actively choose to like either, I just do.

I also like a variety of music, many being almost the antithesis of others.
 
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