Persecution of Gays

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anything I don't mind said:
Of course there is exceptions. But you are clearly missing the point on purpose. Even if 10 gays raised 10 children in history or whatever it would not make the natural family any less important.
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Having gay people adopt does not diminish the importance of heterosexual parents.

There are not enough foster/adoptive parents, any willing inherently good and moral person who would care for a child should be fully supported in this role regardless of sexuality.

anything I don't mind said:
Anyway enough from me on this topic, i am sure you all bored of hearing about the natural family.
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I will get the door for you.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
And no-one's been arrested for practising FGM in the UK either, so add us to the list.
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Two arrested last year, woo.
Compare that with 100 prosecutions in France, the difference being is that in France hospital staff actively target the Ethnic groups involved.

We don't do that in the UK because it's racist and denies the social enrichment that multiculturalism blesses us with.



Also in in six of UK teachers don't believe FGM is child abuse
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/news-and-v...n/NSPCC-warning-teachers-on-FGM_wdn94822.html

My cat knows that FGM is gender based abuse, so that some teachers haven't got a clue makes you wonder what other liberal multicultural BS they believe (or teach)

Sliver said:
I wasn't implying it wasn't true. I was trying to imply that it's a rare event.
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Of course not, you just accidentally said so in the same line as "your post just doesn't seem credible in the least"

If I'm going to call someone on a point I go and check myself first and then come back with my version, it's pointless just saying "I don't believe you"

phonemonkey said:
As a bisexual man with a more than passing interest in current affairs, particularly those relating to LGBT people I have not come across anything that suggests that this is common place anywhere in the world.
Can you provide evidence from a reputable source, Amnesty or Human Rights Watch for example, that proves this is more than a few isolated incidents?
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Where did I say this was commonplace?
That it occurs at all in worthy or repeating.

Odd that you haven't come across this before, as I found it on the International LGBT site and on Human Rights Watch.

http://iglhrc.wordpress.com/2009/04...human-and-degrading-treatment-of-lgbt-people/

I'm not sure what you expect in terms of figures but hundreds have been tortured and this is one of the reported torture methods.

Could you also provide evidence from a similarly reputable source, like the WHO for example, to show us where 'we' are funding a religion to the tune of $13 trillion?
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Nobody is funding a religion, what are you on about?
I've posted the figure before but can't find the chart I used or the reference, so lets go with the easily sourced figure of $4 Trillion, an equally absurd number.
 
spudbynight said:
So why is Fry so critical of Russia and not Qatar? The man is a rank hypocrite.
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That's not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy would be speaking out against the Russian Games whilst celebrating the Qatar World Cup.

As far as I'm aware he hasn't publicly said anything about the Qatari games. At best it's selective outrage, but not hypocrisy.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
That's a bit harsh. I personally think Fry is quite amusing, I certainly wouldn't say he's 'humourless.'
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Your jokes are about as good as your lies ;)


Craterloads said:
There are many things that exist that would be classed by most as unnatural.
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Argumentum ad populum :rolleyes:
(35+% of Americans believe the planet is 6k years old, doesn't make it true now does it!!)

As already stated many many species of animals partake in gay relationships, what would be unnatural is if EVERY Homo sapien was heterosexual! This utterly weak and old 'unnatural' argument has been completely debunked, I suggest you find another angle to try and justify your bigotry / hate!
 
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C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Your jokes are about as good as your lies ;)




Argumentum ad populum :rolleyes:
(35+% of Americans believe the planet is 6k years old, doesn't make it true now does it!!)

As already stated many many species of animals partake in gay relationships, what would be unnatural is if EVERY Homo sapien was heterosexual! This utterly weak and old 'unnatural' argument has been completely debunked, I suggest you find another angle to try and justify your bigotry / hate!
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What bigotry and hate :confused:

I was simply challenging the statement "Gay men exist, thus, they are natural"

Not sure what Americans have to do with this...
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
bigotry hate
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Don't mind me, I'm just playing C.R.A.Z.Y Buzzword Bingo

Someone mention black people, I need racism & xenophobic

*sharpens pencil*






I think the term unnatural in religious terms just refers to anything outside of a man-woman pairing,
that which enables reproduction, and which one would assume God sees as natural
Anything outside this is an evolutionary defect.

The flaw is that god made all things including gay people, so why would god make something he didn't want?
More specifically why would he want his followers to hate those same creations. Doesn't add up.
 
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I feel sorry for gays. Something in their brain ain't right and they'll never be able to have their own children as long as they stay in a gay relationship.
 
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I think gays are pretty happy as they are, and not requiring of anyone's sympathy.

Also, adoption and/or semen donations


"right" would appear to be subjective.
 
Mickie said:
I feel sorry for gays. Something in their brain ain't right and they'll never be able to have their own children as long as they stay in a gay relationship.
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One day I hope you'll think back on your views and look at them for what they are.
 
bitslice said:
The flaw is that god made all things including gay people, so why would god make something he didn't want?
More specifically why would he want his followers to hate those same creations. Doesn't add up.
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Because Devil. Apparently.
 
Craterloads said:
By something simply existing, does is make it natural?

There are many things that exist that would be classed by most as unnatural.
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I would say it is, yes.

I do not care about what people class as "unnatural" tbh. "Nature" is just what happens. To much bull these days about what should be and what shouldn't by lumping the word "natural" and unnatural in to sentenses when it should be there.

By some standards, humans must be unnatural because we were actually the some of the last developed species to wander around the planet.

Arguments might hold (slightly) more weight if gay people were developed in a lab, but they are not.

Anyway, when we as scientists talk about nature, do we not mean the nature of all things in our universe (we can't just pick and choose what is natural) we mean all things and how they interact, therefore, the use of the natural in your terms is incorrect IMO.

Remember that all humans are well within the parameter of nature as well, otherwise you would not be human, you would probably be Dr Manhattan.
 
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